you are the same

forgot the eczema

no, we are not doing this again

moroCOONS wearing greek flags

guy on the top kinda looks like joel

@korg:

GREEKgemmyS WON

@MoistPepper: literally no resemblance

@MoistPepper: this is joel but more zesty and greek

GEEEEEEEEEEG

every greek looks like this

@Morostein:

@Thales: TRVKE

@Morostein:

Obsessed Gr**k b*gots don't support Trans rights like we do in

Morocco!

@Morostein:

@Spanish_Chud: You're the same as homosexualreeks if not worse

@Morostein:

@korg:

WE homosexualREEKS INVENTED HOMOSEXUALITY, HOW DARE YOU APPROPRIATE OUR CULTURE????

@Spanish_Chud: moorish infighting

@Spanish_Chud:

@Aztechicano: They're not Moorish, they are our rapebabies
They're too weak and homosexual to be Moorish

@Morostein:
You claim to be a Muslim
If you're really a Muslim, you would've known that Sodom and Gomorrah (which predated the Ancient Greek world) practiced flamboyant personry
Anyway,

US MQRRQCQgemmyS SUPPORT TRANS RIGHTS

WE GREEKS INVENTED CULTURAL diddyPHILIA

@Aztechicano: go back schlog pooner to gooning to human organ rituals

Ok guy on bottom left is definitely a noonmigrant and guy on top left is a MENA mutt.
Also north africans are inbred noon-arab mutts, Arabs own you.

@korg: They weren't Arabs at that time, we invaded the Levant after

BTW US homosexualREEKS INVENTED HOMOSEXUALITY IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW

@korg: aren't those cities the ones that god destroyed? lmao

@Chud: native greeks look like that, nafris, arabs, turks, ethiopians, somalis, pakistanis, Bharatis, SEA are all paler than Hellenix btw

@trevor: Yes

@Chud: Cope, and North Africans are Arab special so nobody own us, Greece is browner than Nigeria

@Morostein: I never claimed they were Arabs? Are u specialed?

@korg: they weren't muslim thencuh

is that a greekgemmy

@korg: Then what's your point?

@korg: greekroach fell for the obvious bait again award

@Chud: no that's just a result of immigration and 400 years of Ottoman rule

greeks and smelly people are the same

@trevor: that wasn't my point nigguh

@korg: They in fact ''are'' but they mixed with berbers, still berbers have as much cultural and linguistic influence in the maghre as arabs

@Morostein: that flamboyant personry always existed, nobody "invented" it

@korg: then what was ur point

@Spanish_Chud: He was talking about Sodom and Gomorrha

@korg: oh

@Morostein: oh

@Spanish_Chud: @Morostein: nobody on this site has basic reading comprehension lel

@Spanish_Chud: ur the pooner not me

@Aztechicano: Shut up and leave this post

@korg: Why are Greeks brown as fuck? It's not even an insult since MENA is brown too but I'm just wondering, don't you guys consider yourself European?

anyways, this is clearly a seethepost since I bvckbroke OP multiple times, plus xe literally lusts over ugly people so there isn't anything else for me to say
fuck this specialed homosexual thread

@Spanish_Chud: or what pussy? gonna simp on me?

@Morostein:
No you're related but North Africans are not Arabs both groups had a different ethnogenesis, you are a E haplo rape victim of J1 carrying arabs.

@Morostein: Idk ferret some people are just brown like that
I'm a bit brown myself but nowhere near the guys in this post

@korg: You didn't bvckbroke raisin actually I always laugh when you try to attack me because you sound cute
You're the one seething kek

@Morostein: geg he knew he couldn't answer the question and started mumbling to himself lmao, the cope is real, watch him go to the shroom and talk raisin behind your back because its a coping mechanism kek

@korg: W concession

@Aztechicano: No, i'm not, just by seeing your former pfp, it disgusts me

@trevor: That's just you and the IRC

what the fuck bro

MOROSTEIN LOVES ugly people, AN INTEGRAL PART OF BERBER CVLTURE

@Chud: I don't even use the IRC like that

@Spanish_Chud: you are a pooner, sanrioWABAG

@Spanish_Chud: have you ever posted your hand before?

@Aztechicano: Tell me, which are YOU'RE evidences to claim that I am xhim?

@trevor: you will never be warrior-z

@Spanish_Chud: Post hand boi

@korg: no I'm trevor

@trevor: Then why do you copy Warrior-Z's copypastas?

@Spanish_Chud: ESL, just like her. both transheart spain and the falange. both are sporadic.

@Spanish_Chud: its the new meta
now post hand

The two people and the soyjak are whiter than me

@Chud: I'm literally Arab you raisinskin, there's no rape or nothing like that matter of fact Iberians have more North African blood than North Africans have Arab blood, I respect Berbers because Arabs and Berbers are the same

@Dunchenman: do you have a chad fetish?

@trevor: GEG SO TRUE

@trevor: no?

@Morostein:
translation:

>I fap to every single one of your posts because I'm into men

@Spanish_Chud: explosive people cannot create, they can only imitate. Just like Satan. Muhammad was a diddyblud who got raped by Indians.

Albanians are not white.

@Dunchenman: Your brown skin is amazing Dunchy don't let them mfs get to you, Jesus was brown and based

@Peruvian_Chud: This post is not about Albanians bruh

@Chud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

@korg: Or something along those lines

@Spanish_Chud: shu the FUCK up pooner

@Peruvian_Chud: I have an albanian friend and he's pretty white

@Morostein:

@Chud: @Peruvian_Chud: 2 trvkes

@Morostein: Mohammed wasn't white, therefore Jesus was clearly whiter

@Spanish_Chud: I just wanted to make that clear geg

@Dunchenman: KEK wtf

@Spanish_Chud: Actually Mohamed (pbuh) was a ginger

@trevor:

@Dunchenman: congolese afri monkey

thumbnail fail, it's post 117176

I need a cigar.

@Morostein: Most specialed falsenvke claimed, didn't you literally SAID you thought that artistically reinterpret religious figures was unacceptable? You're literally doing this

@korg: Kurdturds could never. They are a useless ethnic group.

@Morostein: he wasn't actually ginger, it was henna
@Spanish_Chud: Jesus was a brown-skinned greedy person (ethnicity), the consensus that he was white came from the fact that people from that region came to the US, the United states had to classify them as white to make Jesus white

@Thub:
ur getting doxxed today bro

@Chud: @korg: schizo talking to himself kek

@Thub: buy a new phone

@Thub: yes I'm a congolese afri monkey. Problem?

@Brazilian_Chud: i was already

@Thub:
i know

@Chud: kek

@korg: appeal to authority fallacy

@trevor: ...Said no-one ever.

@trevor:

TRVE

@trevor: Jesus was not hebrew (Original israelites ethnicity and language), he was and spoke Aramean, which is also a semitic ethnic group like arabs, greedy people or assyrians.

Greeks WNBW...

@Spanish_Chud: Why care so much about Jesus' ethnicity

@Spanish_Chud:

>Jesus was a greedy personish man who lived in an Aramaic-speaking region, making Aramaic his primary spoken language, alongside likely knowing Hebrew (for religious texts) and possibly Greek (for trade/government). He was ethnically greedy personish, followed greedy personish customs, attended synagogues, and observed greedy personish feasts, so he was both ethnically greedy personish and spoke Aramaic, the common tongue of his time and place.

@trevor: can you explain how that's the case?

@Chud: holy forced typing style

@Spanish_Chud: according to the bible, jesus was descended from the tribe of judah through king david, ergo he's greedy personish.

@Spanish_Chud: Jesus was a descendant of King David which made him greedy personish
This is necessary to fulfill Old Testament prophecy
Read Matthew 1

@korg: just because he's an mathematician doesn't mean he's an authority on that specific topic

@Spanish_Chud: Mohamed was fair skinned with reddish-brown hair according to Muslim and Bukhari

@trevor: OK, but who were the ones who disobeyed, betrayed, and supported the crucifix of our Lord, Jesus?

@trevor: okay? the post doesn't inherently claim that the quran is false, just that the "islamic" golden age wasn't islamic

@trevor: Are you sure? In Muslim and Bukhari he's described as fair skinned with red hair

@Spanish_Chud: the greedy people

@Spanish_Chud: Jesus was ETHNICALLY greedy personish, not spiritually

@trevor: Incomplete comparison.

@trevor: it was obvious, no response needed.

@trevor:
read 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15

@Spanish_Chud: That doesn't matter at all
The only thing you should be comparing between Jesus and Muhammad are their teachings

@Spanish_Chud: Incomplete comparison.

@Spanish_Chud: The fact that the greedy people betrayed him does not take away from Jesus' greedy personishness btw

@Peruvian_Chud: ^^^

@Morostein: greedy people are a religion, but during that time judaism was quite scattered to all the nearby ethnicities of the levant

@korg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Persia
@Morostein: he was fair skinned but the red hair was henna most likely

@Spanish_Chud: so what is your point?

@Spanish_Chud: No, greedy people are a religion AND an ethnicity, it's called an ethno-religion

@Peruvian_Chud: for the record I don't disagree with the fact that Jesus is greedy personish but modern greedy people are too mixed to be considered direct descendants of the ancient Israelites

@Spanish_Chud: greedy people are both a religion and an ethnicity. early christianity was considered to be a sect of judaism.

@korg: trve

@Aztechicano: Christianity was a movement within Second Temple Judaism

@Aztechicano: the first is trve but the last is unclear mostly fake

@korg: mmm Good point

@korg: modern greedy people were expelled from Europe and migrated to Europe after ww2, they call it their "holy land" when most of the greedy people back then converted to Christianity or islam

@korg:
Tsmt
The greedy people of the Old testament are NOT the greedy people of now. Jesus says this himself when talking about the synagogue of Satan

@korg: depends on the kind. ashkenazim are the furthest, whereas mizrahi greedy people are the closest to ancient israelites.

@oscari: another x2 trvth

@Spanish_Chud: they're both true and it's not a necessarily bad thing
Idk why so many Christians pussy out and appeal to this "Christian identity" bullcrap
Just look at greedy people today, do they have anything to do with ancient Israelites? Clearly not since they're mutted and follow a religion that is spiritually empty

@korg: They are though, even if they mixed they remain the same people and they are recognizable by their filthy behavior
When I read the Quran and when Allah describes the greedy people in it, I see the same people as the modern ones, same behavior, same dirtiness, same hypocrisy, same greedy person tactics to own the goyim etc

@Aztechicano: ashkhenazis look more ''european'' but they in fact still have pretty much half semitic blood from their ancestral land

@oscari: They are the same

@Morostein: except the Quran was written in the 600s, I'm comparing the first century CE to the current day

@Aztechicano: hey aztechicano on a scale of 1/10 how cholo are you holmes

@korg: yep. it was seen as a sect.
@Spanish_Chud: it was seen as a sect of judaism.

Only brown 3rd worldists believe that 'greedy people are Polish'

>GO BACK TO POLAND XISTA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE O ALGO ASI

Like wtf these greedy people are not Polish and it's obvious

@korg: Even in the Bible they are described as filthy money lenders and greedy pigs

>OG post and comments about Greeks being brown

>Korg uses fallacious reasoning and switches the topic to religion

>Spanish chud joins the "war" against Morostein cuz he lost his own and wants to feel important

>At one point, Korg and Trevor agrees against Spanish chud

>

16-20 year olds then continue debating about Jesus's skin color and religion

Every. Single. Time.

@Morostein: but they are Slavs doe

@Morostein: that's what i meant with the they's still have at least half semitic ancestral land's blood and the fact why still today and most part of the history greedy people haven't been clasified as ''white''

@FreakyJimbo: who gaf

@FreakyJimbo: GEG that's exactly how it happened

@FreakyJimbo: do you want an award for being such an astute observer? Take my reddit gold, you fucking whore, bitch, why won't you fucking call me back RENEE, I STILL MISS YOU

@oscari: Well culturally they aren't that's for sure

@FreakyJimbo: he already lost the debate when he conceded that he was "a little brown" so there was no point in continuing it, it was better to switch the topic

@trevor: keep taking lllzzz you lose the debates alalala alalala
debating is greedy personish

@FreakyJimbo:

@Spanish_Chud: Trvke
greedy people will never be anything else but greedy people, there's no such thing as a 'greedy personish Moroccan, French, German, American or Polish', they are only greedy people

@Spanish_Chud: percentages between levantine populations vary in ashkenazim populations. sephardim and mizrahi greedy people have more levantine admixture.

@trevor: I don't like debates about race, I'm not actually racist

The Godman himself, Jesus, was silent before his accusers
You too should just be quiet

@korg:

BLMXISTAS WHAT IS THIS???

@korg: Yet you raisin on muslims calling them explosive people and raisinskins....

@Aztechicano: About that I mostly have reason

@oscari: Sometimes you need to just sit back and observe
Not everything needs a reaction

@Chud: GEG so true, and when we call him out for it and call him brown he responds with the classic "I'm not racist bro I don't actually like these type of debates mayne"

@oscari: Jesus isn't a god but K

@Chud: He is THE God, as Man incarnate.

@Spanish_Chud: ok

@Chud: Nope, and he's also still alive in heaven, never died.

@trevor: It just doesn't matter
You're brown too but don't wanna admit it

@Chud: Imagine 'God' getting killed by some greedy diddy greedy people
Which god would humiliate himself like that?

@Chud: he isn't "a god" he is GOD

@Morostein: one that's beyond the human emotions of pride and ego

@korg: i'm whiter than you kek
someones jealous

@Morostein: MY God went to earth and sacrificed himself for humanity's sins
MY God defeated death
MY God is the most loving and merciful God

@trevor: I bet I'm whiter than you, wanna have a competition?

@oscari: God is the Highest and He's too noble and powerful to let vile creatures like greedy people humiliate him

@korg: God can't die

@korg: lol

@oscari: post hand

@trevor: Dude I couldn't give less of a fuck whether that's actually true or not
I've made peace with the fact that I don't have the vantawhite skin that /pol/clitties want everyone to have

being wh*te is a bad thing

@Morostein: He rose from the dead 3 days later

@Morostein: GEG
@korg: w concession lmao
@Aztechicano:

FACT CHECKED BY GREEKgemmyS

@_73: It's true though, sometimes I feel like I enter into a completely different state whenever I interact with this website

@korg: still died lmao, and then was resurrected by 2 other gods, how do you even have 3 gods bro :skull:

@korg: God can't die because he's the one who carries the universe
If he dies nothing else exists, not even nothingness, not even existence itself

@trevor: I don't have 3 gods bro this is personal incredulity fallacy

@trevor: how does it feel to glorify a diddy?

@Morostein: we both agree that God is ineffable, inconceivable, invisible, incomphrensible, ever-existing and eternally the same, right?

@Morostein: Jesus was fully God and fully man at the same time
While walking on earth as Jesus, God still sustained the universe at the same time

@Chud: The greedy people called Jesus a false prophet too, keep lying on the messenger of God if it makes you feel better but you'll lose and you feel it deep down

@Morostein: Another hispanic-Moroccan war?

@korg: how can there be 3 gods? there has to be only 1 God, 3 gods creates for a power question
@Chud: marge

@trevor: @Morostein: Satan uses you people as a tool to get me angry and distract me from what's important in life to love all men as brothers and to see all as an icon to the image of God, God have mercy on me and save me

@oscari: I agree

@Morostein: geg

@Peruvian_Chud: It has been hapening all these time ACK!-shually

@oscari:

>mayne its da fuggen saytin das mayking me get angry on a bald men with glasses websyte man

[thumb]151400[/[thumb]

@Peruvian_Chud:

RACEWAR NOW

@trevor: fail
quote me with your low effort slop if you are a chadold

@trevor: it is doe

@trevor: Not 3 gods bro
1 God 3 persons
Father, Son, Holy Spirit
All are equally as powerful and share the same substance

@trevor:

>no text, no nothing

@Morostein: so how would you (and me by extension) know what he would let and not let happen?

@oscari: The reality is that Allah uses us either to:
-Convert you to Islam, the truth
-Or be the ones who will testify against your deliberate ignorance in the day of judgment after we showed you that Islam was the truth

Which path will you choose chud?

@oscari: subauru you draw dragon furries I don't wanna hear your philosophy

@Peruvian_Chud: It's still ongoing but we have a type of ceasefire for now I guess

@trevor: negated.

@korg: korg forgive me for even considering this idea but are Muslim apologists (specifically them, not any other Muslim, most are silent out of fear of retribution) literally too dumb to understand the Trinity? Or is it just their dogma?

@Vergilius: that I do

@Aztechicano: normal people bad.

@korg:

>equally powerful

so there is no 1 powerful person? its just 3 equally powerful persons? how would anyone get their way? that's not all powerful

@Morostein: i will not be praying to a diddyblud, chirst is lord allah is a talking doll made by satan

@Morostein: why would God need someone to tell him what someone else did? Islam was the first protestant church

@Chud: why would Satan make a religion that tells you to pray to god and be a good human? kinda contradictory to me

@oscari: Because God is too high to humiliate himself, God has nothing to prove

@Aztechicano:
if they are bad why are you using things invented by them?

@Morostein: Trollio and I tried to re-start the war on october, but it ocurred again intensely again since you started beefing with othern nameflamboyant persons apart of spaniards and started posting more spanish-mogging posts

@Aztechicano: HEYA HOYA HEYA HOYA HEYA HOYA

@Chud: Life is short so you'll find out soon and you'll regret it in your grave (it'll be too late)

@oscari: oscari I really don't blame you for that question, nor do I wanna insult any Muslim but I think it's both answers
Most of the time Muslims simply can't comprehend the Trinity and to be fair it is a complicated dogma in itself and can be hard to understand even as a Christian, but Muslims are too used to following their dogma that preaches the strict one-ness of Allah

@trevor:

>good human

yeah isis is kind!!1

@oscari: because it acts like a mediator/messenger from the divine world to the human world

@Morostein: aisha was 6

@trevor: because you're praying to the wrong God ya-allah you guys cannot be genuine

@Chud: isis are an evil terrorist group, what's your point?

@Brazilian_Chud: @oscari:

in 2021, 74.6% of offenders in cases involving production of 'p were white.
production of 'p made up 49.2% of all sexual abuse related arrests.

and you consider yourself white?

MAPhammad (piss be upon her) is burning in hell because he's a murderous diddyblud

@oscari: you didn't even try to argue against my point, can you even debate?

@oscari: Nobody needs to say anything to God, he just is perfect and wouldn't let his creations humiliate him, he's divine

@oscari: Nobody needs to say anything to God, he just is perfect and wouldn't let his creations humiliate him, he's divine

@Aztechicano: personally I consider myself proudly Native American

@dap: shut up crosslicker lmao you have no substance

@trevor: islam teaches to harm, kill and rape all the people who dont believe in allah

@oscari: you're whiter than me, stop lying.

@oscari: You got a reddit gold btw.

@Chud: where?

@trevor: Galatians 1:8 states that if an Angel preaches any Gospel that is contrary to the Bible then he's a Demon disguised as one and should not be listened
Muhammad supposedly received his revelation from Angel Gabriel (AKA Satan disguised as him) and even became suicidal after the revelations

@trevor: Debating is a game for greedy people, I'm sure you agree

@korg: are you actually using a Bible verse to disprove another religion? GEG

@trevor: ad hominem

@oscari: You mean you are an

Indian, Saar?

@korg: That's the point, why would God make his divinity complicated? He knows that humans are dumb in general, so why would he make the reason that we are on Earth (to worship him) complicated?

@trevor: why wouldn't he, he thinks it's true

@oscari: @korg: also why would satan construct a religion that DELIBERATELY tells us to hate him

@FreakyJimbo: American Indian yes white man

@trevor: Quran 9:29

@trevor: It doesn't matter who you hate, it matters who you love

@oscari: Indian smelly person or Indian native?

@Aztechicano:
i'm not white and i don't consider myself white

@Brazilian_Chud: And if we're raisin, why do Spaniards use potatoes, corn, cassava, and quinoa (from America) in their food?

@oscari: his point is literally an ad hominem too, I responded in the same way
@oscari: would you like it if I used a Quran verse to disprove Christianity?

@Morostein: Personal incredulity
Just because you can't personally understand it doesn't make it false

@trevor: shut up stonekisser, muzzies worship inanimate objects and pray to arab pagan moon god

@oscari: yes and we love god

@Brazilian_Chud: yet you worship them you mongrel.

@trevor: surah 4 verse 34 allah wants muslims to beat females

@trevor: Yeah, they also say that greedy people created Islam but our religion is probably the most antisemitic religion on Earth geg, they never read the Quran so they don't know

@Peruvian_Chud: Moreover, thanks to the Andes we avoided a famine in Spain

@dap: we don't worship it, the moon isn't an Islamic logo, all easy surface level points that have debunked many times

please try harder dap chong

@Peruvian_Chud: the americas almost never suffer from famines unlike those of the old world, especially whites.

@trevor: Islam doesn't worship Christ
Christ said that he's the only way to the Father
Islam doesn't lead you to the Father

@Aztechicano: we saved them.

@Aztechicano:

TRVE

@korg: God wouldn't make his divinity complicated for us humans
Praying to one God is very simple and any human (even the dumbest one) can comprehend that

Plus muslims dance like ants around some giant black cube and even kiss it

@Chud:

>ermmm... actually you can't beat women up when they disrepect you, you know feminism is a thing right chuddy?

@korg: you're using a bible quote... to disprove Islam...
wow
I can literally use your logic too

@trevor: yes you do, yes it is

@korg: If that's not Satanic/Pagan, Idk what it is

@korg: its called tawaf, not dancing

@Spanish_Chud: You restarted it, you asked for the ceasefire last time and I agreed then you started to raisinfling on the comments and I had to restart the war

@Morostein:
if greedy people created islam it wouldn't be so specialed

@dap: no we don't, no it isn't, your argument has no substance and only relies on racism

@Morostein: What is Trollio doing?

@Morostein: evendoe Christians worship one God

@Morostein: I also pray to one God
one of the most basic, yet important prayers in Christianity is the Jesus prayer
"Lord Jesus Christ Son of God have mercy on me a sinner"

@Chud:

>beating women le okay! You should not solve any altercations peacefully!!!

@korg: Absolutely not true, and the cube is not black it's just a carpet

@korg: 'Son of God'

@trevor: The Quran says that the people of the Book should appeal to what Allah has revealed therein

@korg:

>son of god

how can god have a son, and how can god have a father?

@trevor: bible came much earlier than quran did. and it's a way more reliable source than quran due to this simple fact

@korg: the 2 books of the Torah and the bible have long been corrupted, he was talking about the uncorrupted versions

@MoistPepper: No because you believe in a God, 'his son' and the 'Holy spirit'

@Chud: ^

@Spanish_Chud: What you mean?

@Chud: so you have nothing to say?

@dap: that doesn't matter, the Bible has been corrupted and this is why the Quran was sent down from God AGAIN. the Torah became corrupted, then the Bible, and the Quran became the final book, convert now

@Chud: You're just crying, I posted a picture of you there.

@Morostein: God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit are one God

@trevor: Where in the Quran does it say that the Bible is corrupted?
There is no historical evidence that this is the case anyway
The "dominant followers of Jesus" in the way that the Quran describes them never existed

@trevor: How can God not have a Son or Father?

@trevor: By this way the Quran can also be as corrupted and modified throught time as the bible

@Morostein: Indian native like American Indian I am indigenous to America. AMERICAN.

@trevor: Holy Trinity sounds kinda

Pagan

to me.
@dap: By that logic, greedy person books came earlier...

@trevor: Why would Allah wait 600 years just to tell everyone that Jesus was never crucified?
Early Christians always believed in the divinity of Jesus and His crucifixion

@korg: numerous translations and lost versions of the Bible prove this
@Spanish_Chud: nope, the Quran has been kept the same, no translations, no corrupt leaders like saint Paul corrupting it
@Chud: because then it would make him not be all powerful, a god should be all powerful and should only be one, numerous gods mean there is no all powerfulness

@korg: korg forget the moslem debates let's discuss christendom
Are you inquiring, catechuman, or baptized?

@dap:

>Hinduism came earlier than the Abrahamic religions therefore it's a way more reliable source

Stfu you specialed asian mutt

@Chud:

>Eternal timeless supreme being has biological relationships

@Spanish_Chud: Correct

@oscari: You share no Paleoindian ancestors like I do. Go back.

@MoistPepper: 3 cannot be 1

@Chud: you did not respond

@oscari: Oh okay

@Spanish_Chud: The Bible hasn't been corrupted, we have quotes from Early Church Fathers and manuscripts dating back to the 2nd century
On the other hand, Uthman burned a bunch of Qurans and replaced them with his own version
We don't know what those original Qurans said

@Chud: @Morostein:

@Chud: What is there to respond to? you just cried about >m-muh peaceful solutions as if it's not okay to use violence after these fail.

Bro ur fucking Moroccan why do you try so hard to be white just be fucking Arab god damn

@Morostein: GEG he's so specialed

@oscari: I'm baptized Orthodox Christian (as an infant) Glory to God

@oscari: these dumb specials had to backtrack out of a debate that THEY started lmaooooooooooooooooooo

@Aztechicano: no dude seriously I'm Native American my ancestors are from the West Coast

@Chud: why would he larp as brown?

@korg: nice! I was baptized this December. Which branch are you from?

@korg: Just said at replying what trevor questioned, i don't actually believe the bible is corrupted and barely is modified

@oscari: what nation?

@korg: I worded it a little weird because I'm ESL I meant to say that I was baptized as a baby and I'm an Orthodox Christian

@oscari: Glory to God, may God always be with you
I'm Eastern Orthodox

@trevor: He tries so hard to pretend he is white but also says he's Moroccan. He's a contrarian ass nlgga and should just identify as Moroccan and stop trying to larp as white

@korg: The Birmingham Quran manuscript dated 568-645 CE is the same Quran that we got today, so what you say is false

@Morostein:

<<Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.>>

The Gospel According to JOHN 14:10-11 NKJV>>
The Gospel According to JOHN 14:10 NKJV

I'm Roman Catholic since I was baptized way earlier

@korg:

>We have manuscripts dating back to the 2nd century

>Look inside

>Tiny fragment of a page the size of a sticky note

@Aztechicano: I don't know, my grandparents as assholes

BUT

It's painfully obvious if you were to see me that I'm Native American. I'm 6'1, I don't sunburn, my hair grows long and nicely, it's reddish in the sun. I also have the voice. I don't need to claim I'm Cherokee or whatever to know I'm Native American. It's like if you had red hair and blue eyes, it doesn't matter if you don't know what country you're from, you're clearly white.

@MoistPepper: ^formatting error, but you get the idea

@Morostein: hinduism is non-abrahamic snca though

@Chud: That's exactly what I do bitch, I identify as a white Moroccan
North Africa is diverse special, there are white North Africans, brown North Africans (the most common) and black North Africans
I never said I'm European, I would never identify with chadoldry

@korg: I meant like if you're like Antiochian or Greek or Russian.
Just wanna know since I'm in the Antiochian.

@Morostein: Interesting, I guess those claims weren't true after all
Still, the Bible was never corrupted, we have early manuscripts like the Dead Sea Scrolls for the Old Testament and Codex Vaticanus as well as Codex Sinaiticus for the New Testament

@oscari: Greek

Stop this raisin already

@Morostein: https://share.google/IR7U4u5pRnfQJ3qKl

@MoistPepper: It doesn't make sense, if Jesus was God he wouldn't be vague, he would straight up say I AM GOD NOW KISS MY FEET, he never identified as God that's why early Christians didn't treat him as such

@Chud: Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vaticanus
Cope

@Chud: ^ Datamining greedy persongle link DNI

@Morostein: If you don't wanna be a European then go back to your country

@oscari: huh..

@Chud: It's a fucking image

@korg: Both are from nearly 400 years after the fact

@oscari: sad you worship a foreign religion.

@Morostein:
John 11:25
There are many instances where Jesus says things like this
Plus Early Christians always considered Jesus as God

@Aztechicano: It's universal

@Aztechicano: ^ Sacrifices little kids to please xer sun god

@Morostein: oh and also Jesus accepted worship multiple times, like when the people on the boat said "truly this is the Son of God" and when Thomas said "my Lord and my God"

@korg: originated in the middle east, not the americas.

@Morostein:
"Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son's name, If you know?"

Old Testament
The Book of PROVERBS 30:4 NKJV

@Aztechicano: yes but you don't have to be a specific ethnicity to follow it
everyone can participate in the Church

@Chud: ^ Grooms little kids to please xer greedy person god

@dap: he's just using your specialed ass logic

@MoistPepper: Pretty sure rabbis already debunked all of these so-called Jesus prophecies in the OT. Most of them have a translation that greatly distorts the original meaning.

@korg: jesus died for the white man, not the indian. history shows this.

@korg: That's also not true, all your books were corrupted

- The Old Testament: The Dead Sea Scrolls (250 BCE - 70 CE) shows that multiple textual traditions were circulating at the same time (Proto-Masoretic, Proto-Septuagint and other Samaritan texts)
- The New Testament: Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus disagree with each other in THOUSANDS of places, a lot of passages are missing and they differ from later Byzantine manuscripts

Mark 16:9-20 was absent in earliest manuscripts, John 7:53-8:11 was added later and 1 John 5:7-8 are not original, everything was reconstructed

There is not a single doubt that the Bible was corrupted

@Aztechicano: ^ Humongous brap

@Chud: ^ Humongous brap

@korg: cool
Did you do Christmas on the 25th or the 7th?
Not trying to argue about this just curious

@Morostein: ^*Ohio Brap*

@Chud: @Morostein: @Aztechicano: @trevor: @korg: @MoistPepper: @Swatted: @Spanish_Chud: @dap: @oscari: @beefsoup: @Peruvian_Chud: play limbus company

@_73: WHO IS THIS?

@_73: how did u get groomed by muttraisin btw?

@Aztechicano: it was Itransheartblox that groomed me

@oscari: Since I'm a Catholic ofc I don't know neither celebrate Christmas on 7th, like why, I didn't knew that before I read more about Orthodoxy, but we do (at least here in Spain) celebrate the Three Wise Men on 6th january

We in the turkcord sold our souls to project moon

@_73: zamn..

u should watch i can't sleep

@_73: be my tvrkwife saar

@Dunchenman: CHIMPzilian..

@Dunchenman: ayo thats homosexual

@Aztechicano: btw I just killed myself with a katana
Goodbye

@Aztechicano: hello aztechonker

@_73: Why

@_73: that's not homosexual because everyone is a pooner or however the pooner chasers says

i remember being catholic. or at least growing up in a catholic community of mestizos.

@Chud: because the story is good

@_73: What's the story

@MoistPepper: >chonker) don't ever say that again or I'm ranting again about how you're a overused cumsock

@Aztechicano: convert to orthodoxy like the aleut

@Chud: I dont wanna spoil it, also Im not completely done with the yet so I could tell it up to canto 4

@oscari: they suffered because of it. pigs have no empathy.

@_73: what's the name of the red-haired female character

@_73: *the game

@_73: Is it only on PC or what

@Morostein: Not a single Christian tried to contradict me on that (because everything I said is historically true and verifiable)

MUSLIMS WON THE DEBATE

@Dunchenman: you mean ishmael or yuri?

@Aztechicano: Even chadolicism or orthochadxy would be better than your demonic native religion

@_73: I searched
It's ishmael

@Morostein: https://share.google/IR7U4u5pRnfQJ3qKl

@Chud: I play it on my laptop, but you can also get it on ur ohone

even if my brethren up north didn't suffer by the hands of the orthodox christians. i don't have any real reason to do so. i am fine with my faith.

stop

@Spanish_Chud: geg

@Morostein: Textual variation is not the same as outright corruption
You claim that a text having textual variation means corruption, but thing is, textual variation is completely normal for pre-printing press transmissions
In fact, the Dead Sea Scrolls confirm preservation, not corruption
For example: The Isaiah Scroll is around a thousand years older than the Masoretic Text and comparison between them shows 95% word agreement
Having textual variations means we can compare texts to reconstruct the original

>Vaticanus and Sinaiticus disagree in thousands of places.

Kind of, but you make it sound more dramatic
Most differences are:
-spelling (e.g., Greek spelling variants)
-word order (Greek is flexible)
-presence/absence of articles ("the")
No Christian doctrine depends on a disputed text

>Mark 16:9-20

Absent in the earliest manuscripts, mist modern Bibles clearly footnote or bracket it
Doesn't hurt Christian doctrine

>John 7:53-8:11

Likely a later addition, again most modern Bibles footnote this
This doesn't hurt Christianity, the core message still exists

>1

John 5:7-8
Later Latin addition, absent from most modern Bibles
Christianity says:
Manuscripts were copied by humans, variants occurred, scholars compare manuscripts to recover originals
Islam claims:
Quran was perfectly preserved and yet: Uthman burning, missing Hadith verse (for example the stoning verse), early companions disagreed on content
Christianity is transparent about its data. Islam suppresses uncomfortable data.

@_73: ima be honest i could not be caught with this game

@Chud: i do not care about your libel of my beliefs.

@Chud: honestly ur right the gameplay is kinda buns, thats why its my guilty plessure

@Spanish_Chud: so am I

The story is good though and I like the character designs

@korg: The cope is insane

>uhhh, it's corrupted but not enough to prevent us from reconstructing the original message most of the time, OKAY???

jimbrap

@korg: Why the Bible is actually more reliable than any ancient text
New Testament manuscript evidence:
~5,800 Greek manuscripts
~20,000 in other languages
Earliest fragments within decades, not centuries
Comparison:
Caesar's Gallic Wars: ~10 manuscripts, ~1,000-year gap
Tacitus: ~20 manuscripts
If the NT is "corrupted," then all of ancient history collapses.
Does this hurt Christianity?
No. It strengthens it.
Why?
-We know where variants are
-We know what's original and what's not
No core teaching is in doubt:
-Jesus' divinity
-crucifixion
resurrection
-salvation by grace
Christianity does not claim a magically dictated book. It claims a historically transmitted revelation, and history confirms it.

jimbo but 100x whiter

@JimboClittyLeakageArchive: >the fat brown dude is this nameflamboyant person for the 1000th time joke) get a new one

@Vergilius: it gets funnier eachtime

@Chud: for a text as ancient as the Bible textual variations are normal
It's perfectly preserved considering how far back it dates

the fat brown dude is this nameflamboyant person

@korg:

>If the NT is "corrupted," then all of ancient history collapses.

Sorry to break it to you, but ancient history has an INSANE amount of speculation, historians just try to reconstruct what happened roughly from the sources they have. So saying "if you take these ancient happenings as 100% true then my religion must be 100% true as well!!!" is not as strong as of an argument than you think.

@Chud: as strong of an argument*

@Chud: If historians can come to accurate conclusions based on ancient manuscripts then we most definitely can recover the "original" version of the Bible
All I'm saying is that it's not "corrupted" like many Muslims claim it to be

@korg: I'm gonna debunk you right quick

>1

. Corruption
Corruption in the Bible means that if it has been altered in its meaning, it has been corrupted. Here 'corruption' is equated with the Bible being changed in the sense of its message or meaning.

>2

. Dead Sea Scrolls
The Dead Sea Scrolls reveal different texts. Some manuscripts correspond to the Masoretic Text, others to the Septuagint or Samaritan tradition. This shows that at some point different textual traditions coexisted.

>3

. Isaiah Scroll
Great Isaiah Scroll is a very ancient copy which is largely reliable but not exactly the same as the Masoretic Text. It has meaningful variants as opposed to just spelling differences, a number of these variants affect interpretation. Stability of a text does not imply that it has been flawlessly preserved.

>4

. Vaticanus vs Sinaiticus
They differ in thousands of places, this is not exaggerated. Bruce Metzger explicitly states this. Most variants are minor, but some involve omissions and additions.

>5

. 'No doctrine depends on variants'
The aim of textual criticism is to determine the original text, not to decide whether faith could survive after a departure of the text, a passage may be unauthentic even if the doctrine that it conveys is unaffected. These two situations are different questions.

>6

. Mark 16:9-20
The longer ending is missing from the very earliest copies of the New Testament, its vocabulary and style are different from Marks Gospel. Scholars agree it is a later addition btw.

>7

John 7:53-8:11
This text is absent from the earliest Greek manuscripts and moves around the different locations in subsequent copies. It is generally agreed that the text of John did not originally include this passage.

>8

. 1 John 5:7-8
The Trinitarian phrase is missing in all early Greek manuscripts and it first appeared in the Latin tradition. It was very late that the Greek manuscripts got this phrase. The scholars completely reject it.

>Islam

Whataboutism. Besides that the Quran is the same in meaning and interpretation, the Birmingham manuscript proves it.

@Morostein: Your definition of corruption:

>Corruption means altered in meaning or message.

Two critical clarifications: 1.Textual change = loss of original meaning. A text can undergo variants while the original meaning remains recoverable. 2.By this definition, any pre-print text with variants is "corrupted", including: Plato, Aristotle, Homer, Josephus, Early Islamic sources (Qur'an readings, hadith). So your definition proves too much. If applied consistently, it collapses ancient literature as a whole. A historian would instead ask:
Is the original text and message substantially recoverable?
For the Bible, the answer is yes.
The Dead Sea Scrolls reveal different texts. Some manuscripts correspond to the Masoretic Text, others to the Septuagint or Samaritan tradition. This shows that at some point different textual traditions coexisted.
Everything you said here is 100% correct, but it does not imply corruption. Yes, multiple textual traditions coexisted. Some align with MT, others with LXX or Samaritan. HOWEVER, the differences are visible, classifiable, and traceable. This is not evidence of theological tampering, it's evidence of transparent transmission. If the Bible had been centrally corrupted, we would expect: suppression of earlier forms, forced standardization and disappearance of variants. Instead, we have all of them preserved side-by-side. That is the opposite of corruption.

>Great Isaiah Scroll is a very ancient copy which is largely reliable but not exactly the same as the Masoretic Text. It has meaningful variants as opposed to just spelling differences, a number of these variants affect interpretation. Stability of a text does not imply that it has been flawlessly preserved.

Yes: Some variants affect interpretation. No: They do

not

change doctrine or prophecy. Examples scholars cite: word order changes, synonymous substitutions, grammatical smoothing and interpretive clarifications. What does not change: Messianic themes, monotheism, covenant theology, historical narrative. This is why greedy personish scholars themselves continue to regard Isaiah as stable.

>Stability does not imply flawless preservation

Correct, and Christianity does not claim flawless preservation. This is a strawman.
Vaticanus vs Sinaiticus. They differ in thousands of places, this is not exaggerated. Bruce Metzger explicitly states this. Most variants are minor, but some involve omissions and additions.
Again, factually true, but misleading without context. Bruce Metzger himself explains: The overwhelming majority are: spelling, word order, minor omissions due to eye-skip. Only a tiny fraction affect meaning

No doctrine is uncertain

This is exactly why Metzger, who rejected biblical inerrancy still affirmed:
The essential Christian beliefs are not affected by textual variants. So citing Metzger actually undermines the corruption claim.
"Doctrine unaffected" misses the point?
Textual criticism is about recovering the original, not whether faith survives.
Correct, but this helps Christianity, not hurts it. Because textual criticism has successfully identified: later additions, interpolations, original readings. That's why: Mark 16 is flagged, John 7 is bracketed, 1 John 5:7 is removed. A corrupted text does not self-correct. A critically transmitted text does. If Christianity were trying to preserve false doctrine, why expose and remove verses that seem helpful to it?

>The logical failure: "variants exist means corruption"

Your argument is as follows:

<Variants exist

<Some affect interpretation

>Therefore the Bible is corrupted

This is a non sequitur. The original premise would have to be:

>If a text has variants affecting interpretation, its original message is unrecoverable

That premise is false, and contradicted by: classical philology, textual criticism, your own acceptance of reconstructed texts elsewhere.

>Islam and whataboutism

Not actually whataboutism, this is important. Comparative analysis is not whataboutism when the claim is universal. You are saying that texts with variants are corrupted. So I'm entitled to ask: Do you apply this standard consistently?

>Birmighan manuscript claim

Birmingham fragment ~ parts of Surahs 18-20. Does not prove: full Qur'anic stability, original compilation, absence of variants. It also aligns with the Uthmanic consonantal text, not pre-Uthmanic diversity and ignores early reports of missing verses, variant codices, and multiple qira'at. So even Islam relies on standardization, reconstruction and exclusion of variants. The difference is that Christianity preserves the variants openly while Islam canonized one form and eliminated rivals. Let me ask you this:

Can you identify a single original Christian belief taught by Jesus or the apostles that we cannot recover today due to textual variants?

Not "a verse that's dusputed", nor "a passage that was added". Until you can answer this, the claim that "there is no doubt the Bible has been corrupted" remains unproven."

@korg: Who said it's "accurate"? it's just speculation.

@korg: I will debunk that tomorrow, I favorited the post

@Morostein: Cya

@korg: some characters automatically got converted for the first one it was supposed to be:
Textual change =/= loss of original meaning.

@korg: original txt just in case
https://files.catbox.moe/42khch.txt

@korg: Np I'll keep that in mind