emerald: Your brown kek

trevor: @emerald: keep raging on muslims geg

Nobody1:
boring

oscari: what was Muhammed doing with the men of al zut

oscari: @oscari: (peace be apon him)

Garf: Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
Narrated `Aisha:

that the Prophet (salla Allah `alayhi wa-sallam) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (salla Allah `alayhi wa-sallam) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @oscari: probably the same thing that jimbo is now doing with his 30 or so oneshot xisters

xerox: brown hand's Maked dis post

Nobody1: @JimboClittyLeakageArchive: But he was the rapist

trevor: @Garf: are you really using THAT Hadith GEG

trevor: @Garf: debunked: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MiupfAM3Sb5GNC9HkP58MbhYUQe2JW38-W9QuZ9e2o8/edit?tab=t.0

trevor: @oscari: that Hadith was a false Hadith, it was them overly crowding him, not assault. as shias we do not believe this

trevor: garf and emerald are so raisin at debates its actually sad

jimbo: what about the quranic dillema

Chud¹: @trevor: It was a Da'if Hadith to be exact. Need I say more?

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

trevor: @jimbo:
The Qur'an refers to the original, divinely revealed Tawrat (Torah) and Injil (Gospel) given to Moses and Jesus, not the current Old and New Testaments, which Muslims believe have been altered or corrupted over time.
The Qur'an acts as the final "Criterion" (al-Furqan), distinguishing between what was true in previous revelations and human additions or distortions that crept in.
The Qur'an's "confirmation" (musaddiq) of previous scriptures means it attests to the general, original message of monotheism and guidance, not every single word or narrative found in existing biblical texts.
Thus, from an Islamic perspective, the "dilemma" arises from a misunderstanding of the Qur'an's position on scriptural authority and the historical development of the biblical texts.

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

Chud²⁽¹⁾: @Garf: Recycled the same argument for the gorillionth time award

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

trevor: @Chud: correct

Chud³⁽¹⁾: @jimbo: What Dillema are you even talking about? Torah, Psalms and The Gospel (Not Gospels, but The Gospel given to Jesus, PBUH) were divine revelations alongside Qur'an. But the thing is both Tanakh and the New Testament are full of nonsense and things that weren't in the original Divine Revelations. Some of the Psalms found in Tanakh accuse King/Prophet David (PBUH) of adultery and murder. As for the New Testament, it's mostly just a compilation of Paul's letters and Biographies on Prophet Jesus (PBUH), so even if it was PERFECTLY preserved, it would still not be reputable enough to be considered Divine guidance.

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

StinkyWanger: prophet muhammad (al-zutt be upon him) is le heckin messangar of god and actually YOU CANNOT LISTEN TO MUSIC OR EAT PORK but killing is fine :blush:

trevor: @StinkyWanger: proved the posts point geg

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @StinkyWanger: jimbo (police be upon xhe/xher) logic

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

Chud⁴⁽¹⁾: @StinkyWanger: Even though Pigs are disgusting and full of parasites. Even though Music is specialed and zombifies people. Even though Islam allows killing only under very specific circumstances (like in War or killing those who have Apostasized against an Islamic State)

jimbo: @trevor: @Chud: https://ia601507.us.archive.org/27/items/the-islamic-dilemma/TheIslamicDilemma.pdf

emerald: @Chud:
don't disrespect Ukrainians like that

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @jimbo: jimblam is false

Chud⁵⁽¹⁾: @jimbo: It is only affirming the Torah, Psalms and The Gospel of Jesus (PBUH). Torah that was revealed to Prophet Moses (PBUH) had its interpretations and meanings corrupted over time. Psalms revealed to Prophet David (PBUH) had more entries added to it and some of the Psalms were corrupted to slander Him as I already said. The Gospel revealed to Prophet Jesus (PBUH) was not even written down or documented properly. Considering He spoke Aramaic (or even Hebrew) and that the oldest Manuscripts in the New Testament of the Bible are in Koine Greek already says enough. And as for Qur'an, it confirms the Divine Origin of these Revelations and has an ULTIMATE authority over all the Previous Scriptures (That were Corrupted)

jimbo: @Chud: this doesn't answer the logical paradox

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @jimbo: jimbo quit the larp already

jimbo: @JimboClittyLeakageArchive: keep leaking

trevor: @jimbo: so this is your logic:

>if Bible true Quran is false

>if Bible false Quran is true

jimbo: @trevor: you're specialed
read the pdf

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @jimbo: there goes the hindu goddess of child 'ape herself,

JIMBO THE AUTISTIC BIMBO

, on her way to call everything that goes against her 67IQ smelly person world view as leakage

trevor: @jimbo: I cant its blocked on my chromebook

trevor: @NumberGOD: GEG I know why this snca irrelevant diddy is leaking and raging so hard, its because I smooted up his snca brimcoal post >>148056 GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG, xe took it so personally he had to make a raisinty 'pasta that attacks to me a personal level GEG, this is top-tier levels of rage and leakage

Chud⁶⁽¹⁾: @jimbo: It's not even a logical Paradox. All of the previous Prophets in History were sent by One and Only God - Allah. Prophet Muhammad (salla Allah `alayhi wa-sallam) was the Seal of All Prophets, and Qur'an is the FINAL Divine Revelation until the Day of Judgment. Also, I am going to say this again - the current Torah, Psalms and The Gospel (or whatever remains of it) are Corrupted. Not that this matters since most of these Scriptures had most of their Prophecies fulfilled anyways.

jimbo: @trevor: oh i see

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

NumberGOD: @trevor:

WHO THE FUCK SAID THIS SWARTHY KURDRAQI SPECIMEN WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY ON THIS BOORU?

LET'S FACE THE FUCKING TRUTH: NO FUCKING CUNT WANTS YOU ON THIS SITE SO YOU MIGHT AS FUCK OFF AND SHALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA TO WHATEVER OVERCROWDED SLUM raisinHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND STILL DWELL IN, OH WAIT I FORGOT HES GETTING FREE ACCOMODATION IN A 5 STAR HOTEL WHILE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY! IS THIS THE CUNT YOU WANT ON YOUR STREETS? AND THIS IS ALSO WHILE LARPING AS A WHITE A10 BLONDE gemmy GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS MORE MISERABLE THAN WHAT I CAN IMAGINE: YOUR ONLY COPING STRATEGY IS TO CALL EVERYONE A flamboyant person AND NO FUCKING WONDER YOU ARE THE VILE UGLYCREATURE KNOWN AS "TREVOR"

jimbo: @Chud: if they're corrupted why does the quran affirm them (as shown in the pdf)
and also if allah is the seal and all good and whatever why did he knowingly lie about Christ's death? muslims believe he didn't die and it was just some le illusion or whatever that allah did, pretty sure that goes against allah being the seal if he's going to willingly deceive his followers.
that's not to say that Jesus didn't die, even if you dismiss the Bible, you'll still have to go through the numerous writings on him post-death (like Tacitus' Annals)

_73: "you should heal from the Christchad disease i've heard the cure is to stop believing in fairytales" -jimbo

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @_73: "i need to sacrifice 3 fetuses and dump 500oz of my own semen to appease the hindu gods" - jimbo

_73: "of course the Christchad was a loner who got no play, ever thought about praying to your God to fix that?" -also jimbo lol this larp is so homosexual geeeeeeeg

Chud⁷⁽¹⁾: @jimbo: Qur'an doesn't affirm them, Qur'an acknowledges their original Divine source. These three Scriptures still have remnants of the original Divine message that they contained.
Also on the second point - Allah didn't make an Illusion or something like that. Allah made Judas Iscariot look like Prophet Jesus (PBUH) for his betrayal.
Third point - Allah is not a Prophet, Allah is The God. He's the same God who was mentioned in the Torah, Psalms and The Gospel. Prophet Muhammad (salla Allah `alayhi wa-sallam) is the Final Prophet, after whom ZERO new Prophet will appear.

_73: Jimbo when will you send me that vocaroo of you speaking georgian btw?

Dunchenman: @NumberGOD: specialed

trevor: @jimbo: so the Romans weren't actually his followers, it was to protect Jesus Christ and save him, it was the plan of Jesus' enemies to crucify him, in which they failed. Jesus dying was merely an assumption, not a fact. Allah instead put Simon into Jesus' place.

jimbo: @Chud: second point doesn't dismiss the fact that he essentially tricked his followers
and yes you can say he's the god but how is he, a god, not able to perfectly lay out something as simple as a trail of scriptures without them getting corrupted? and knowingly have them be affirmed in the quran (the gospels are indeed affirmed, not acknowledged, read the verses)

trevor: @Chud: Are you sunni? Shias believe Simon was put into his place instead

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: "uhm, you see those al-zutt men from 1400 years ago or something along those lines, god i wish i was just like them, raping 50 years olds in the desert with my gang , anyways, CAT BRING MY BLACK DRAGON DILDO, THE ONESHOT GOONING SECTION IS ABOUT TO START ASAP ON THE SHROOMC0RD" - jimbo, circa 2 microseconds ago

_73: @jimbo: stop the larp lil ferret

MoistPepper: what if everybody stopped hating each other because one just chooses to believe in a different religion?

jimbo: @MoistPepper: im not hating i just wanted to debate

oscari: @_73: Personally I'm a big fan of larping i think we need more larp. Make the booru HRP

Dunchenman: @MoistPepper: keyed

Chud⁸⁽¹⁾: @jimbo: That's because Allah already planned this to happen 50000 years before the creation of the Universe. Allah didn't guarantee the Preservation of these Scriptures because their Preservation was a Trial from him to test Humanity and see what they'll do with them. Also, it's The GOSPEL, not Gospel-s. The Gospel is a Divine Revelation given to Prophet Jesus (PBUH). Gospel-s you know today are just Biographies of Him, not the original Divine Revelation.

MoistPepper: @jimbo: debates creates wars

Chud⁹⁽¹⁾: @trevor: I'm Sala'fi

jimbo: @Chud: so allah was more concerned with letting people essentially get tricked into believing false happenings and not actually guiding his people with non corrupt scriptures

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: controlled opposition above

_73: @oscari: yeah but its homosexual when jimbo does it because everytime I see talk about some "Amen" or "Christ is King" that screenshot of him calling someone a Christchad because they insulted Oneshot(geeeeg) appears in my head

epx7fclhdrp: @_73: oneraisin is jimbo's god

oscari: @JimboClittyLeakageArchive: it's kind of funny knowing that all of these people will sit down and debate about Islam or some raisin like they don't actively fan girl over the most inane raisin imaginable

_73: @epx7fclhdrp: happened multiple times btw, his favorite ugly personslop is more important to him that his religion(trad orthodox georgian man APPARENTLY)

epx7fclhdrp: @_73: KEK

trevor: @jimbo:
From the mainstream Shi'a perspective, Allah was not concerned with "letting people believe false happenings" in the sense of a deliberate, malicious deception. Instead, the event was a demonstration of Allah's power and plan to protect His messenger Jesus (Isa) from his enemies who sought to kill and humiliate him.
Mainstream Islamic thought (including orthodox Shi'a belief) holds that Allah would not allow one of His greatest prophets to be killed in such a humiliating public manner by his enemies. The denial of the crucifixion is a denial of mankind's power to defeat Allah's messenger.
The Quranic context is a condemnation of the greedy personish people who boasted that they had killed the Messiah. Allah is effectively denying their claim to victory, asserting that they did not accomplish their goal. The entire sequence of events was part of Allah's greater plan, which ultimately resulted in Jesus being raised alive to heaven.
Some interpretations suggest the event served as a test for people's faith, distinguishing those who would follow the truth revealed later in the Quran from those who followed conjecture.
The denial of the crucifixion also fundamentally challenges the Christian doctrine of atonement, where Jesus' death on the cross is a sacrifice for the sins of humanity. In Islam, there is no concept of original sin in the Christian sense, and thus no need for a blood sacrifice.
The belief that Jesus did not die but was raised to heaven alive and is in a state of "occultation" (hiding) fits with the Shi'a belief in the return of both Jesus and the Twelfth Imam (Mahdi) in the end times to establish justice.
Ultimately, from a Shi'a perspective, the confusion surrounding the event was not an end in itself, but a consequence of Allah's active intervention to save Jesus and fulfill a divine plan, which upholds His wisdom and power over human machinations.

Chud¹⁰⁽¹⁾: @jimbo: Allah was still sending Prophets at that those time periods to guide the Humanity, so the Scriptures couldn't be corrupted. It's particularly after the coming of Prophet Muhammad (salla Allah `alayhi wa-sallam) when Allah stopped sending Prophets, so nobody was there to protect the previous Scriptures. As for the Qur'an, it's pretty much a widely accepted fact that it's perfectly preserved. Qur'an is not a Book, Qur'an is Divine Text and thousands of Companions memorized the Qur'an at the time of Prophet Muhammad (salla Allah `alayhi wa-sallam). Even if one letter were to be changed, at least a thousand voices would point that out.

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @epx7fclhdrp: the hindu pantheon grows every day

jimbo: @trevor: why are you using chatgpt

Dunchenman: @_73: Jimbo, if you're reading this comment, please stop. What you're doing doesn't honor God.

FatGuyParadise: chud cant be islam because chud isnt a brown homosexual

trevor: @jimbo: no its not

Chud¹¹⁽¹⁾: @FatGuyParadise: Chud can be a Muslim because Islam is a Sigma religion.

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @_73: @_73: the average western convert to orthodoxy experience (not to dog on orthodoxy but eastern europe is far from being free from degeneracy)

jimbo: @Chud:

>As for the Qur'an, it's pretty much a widely accepted fact that it's perfectly preserved.

<PBUH SPACE

so a perfectly preserved and divine book affirms............previously corrupted scripture?

MoistPepper: @jimbo: boi stop

jimbo: The Quran repeatedly affirms the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Torah
and Gospel.Examples:
"Let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein"
(Surah 5:47)
"And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming
that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in
which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the
Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous." (Surah 5:46)

jimbo: "Say, 'O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you
uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you
from your Lord.'" (Surah 5:68)
These verses clearly indicate that the Quran views the Torah and Gospel as divinely
inspired, preserved, and authoritative scriptures.

oscari: @_73: I'm a Orthodox Christian (let's be honest, it's true Christianity) and I want to let you know that the Internet has a very bad representation of the Orthodoxy. You'll see these guys saying they're Orthodox but instead of being interested for theological reasons and actually attending church, they identify as Orthodox because they think (key word is think) the church agrees with them on their political view (it doesn't)

Dunchenman: The debate here is interesting, but I can't fully appreciate the content due to NumberGOD's previous raisinfling. NumberGOD, kiss yourself, you trevor's obsessed flamboyant person

Chud¹²⁽¹⁾: @jimbo: Again, it doesn't affirm them, it acknowledges their original Divine source

JimboClittyLeakageArchive: @Dunchenman: been hibernating for a while, what did trevor do?

jewishautismaward78: this reads like well crafted bait

Dunchenman: @JimboClittyLeakageArchive: Trevor became Jimbo 2.0

jimbo: @Chud: those verses don't hint at there being an "original" divine source

_73: @oscari: the only reason jimbo claims to be orthodox is because of his dograisin georgian larp

trevor: @jimbo:
Yes, Surah 5:68 indicates the Quran recognizes the Torah and Gospel as divinely revealed scriptures, commanding People of the Book (greedy people and Christians) to uphold them, implying divine origin and authority; however, Islamic interpretation often distinguishes between the original pure revelation (Injil, Torah) and current versions, believing these originals pointed to the Quran, which Muslims then follow alongside upholding the original divine commands of earlier prophets.
The command to "uphold the law of the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord" acknowledges these books as God's word, forming a foundation for those faiths.
The verse states People of the Book have "nothing to stand on" (no true standing in faith) unless they follow these scriptures and the Quran.
Many scholars interpret this verse as a challenge to the greedy people and Christians of the Prophet Muhammad's era, urging them to follow their own scriptures and the new revelation (Quran).
Muslims believe the original Torah and Gospel (Injil) were divine but became altered over time, and the Quran is the final, preserved revelation, confirming the core message of monotheism found in earlier scriptures.
you're forgetting that God himself gave out all 3 books

MoistPepper: @JimboClittyLeakageArchive: he's annoying, and that's it. Joel/raisinoko clone

jimbo: @JimboClittyLeakageArchive: go back to hibernating

oscari: @oscari: you might ask "oscari you draw fucking furry porn how can you call yourself an Orthodox chud". I have no rebuttal

jimbo: @trevor: why are you using chatgpt

epx7fclhdrp: @jimbo: @jimbo: @jimbo: wordswordswords stop gooning to oneraisin jimbrap

Chud¹³⁽¹⁾: @jimbo: It only affirms their Inspiration, not Preservation nor Authority.
"But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts. They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. You 'O Prophet' will always find deceit on their part, except for a few. But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers." (Surah al-Ma'idah, Qur'an 5:13)

epx7fclhdrp: @JimboClittyLeakageArchive: Numberchad in specific is specialing out at trevor because he posted a slopjak under his post once i think

jimbo: @oscari: well we all have our vices the best thing to do is to not act on them and follow Christ

epx7fclhdrp: @jimbo: chatgpt BTFOs jimbrap

MoistPepper: @epx7fclhdrp: has mustard already fixed this fucking website?

_73: https://file.garden/aOqk3qU-XTSpc6dB/Jimbofarts%2C%20what%20is%20this%20geeeg.jpg
Is this a top 5 jimbo moment?

jimbo: @Chud: notice how they never specified what portion they were supposed to uphold (retconning)

_73: Fyi he made his user title on the shroom "Christ is King" two months after this jfl

epx7fclhdrp: @MoistPepper: the formatting issue? let me test

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