polarian: some wholesome bipoc dei hire janny unapproved/waitlisted this post when i was anonymous btw

Chud¹: @polarian: must've been Warrior-BLM

MaramvresBvll: Im too dumb and tired to understand what this is trying to say but it has a hecking ugly person hanging so have my updoot

Chud²: Yeah I agree

Alexium_official: Superstructure bearly changes the base

polarian: @MaramvresBvll: i posted this in order to shut up the "red shambala esoteric communist" flamboyant people that have been on the ru for the past week or two

polarian: @Alexium_official: Yes it does, it entirely sets the constraints for the base. That's precisely the explanation for the material conditions of East-Asian/Caucasian populations even before the colonial era in relevance to the rest of the world.

polarian: @polarian: misread it as understructure but its still wrong considering superstructure does maintain the base

General_Niggnin: Anarchism is actually proletarian because modern social structures are against the material world, and infact the current material world in every aspect is artificial, this means reality can almost entirely be changed and material conditions do not matter as much as they did before

Chud³: @polarian: alexium is the one who posts this ugly person slop about shambalalala btw

Chud⁴⁽³⁾: @Chud: and it's not even oc, it's just specialed reuploads from preddit/xitter/c0rd

polarian: @General_Niggnin: Please give me a plausible explanation of how that's true to any capacity.

polarian: exchange@General_Niggnin: That sounds more like gnosticist drivel more than an actual analysis. Modern social structures are a direct materialization of the sequential permutation of trade/exchange including mode of labor, as illustrated among the original image before Understructure was added. Superstructure condenses off of this social base, proportionally complex to how advanced the base means of production is. Understructure sets the conditions to how methodical this process takes place. The concept of "artificiality" as a concept independent of materialism influencing Man represents your contradiction.

Silberfisch: This entire idea of a so-called "understructure",a supposedly biological foundation on which social relations are built,is nothing more than an attempt to present existing power structures as natural and unchangeable.
Such narratives have historically been used by fascists, especially the National Socialists, to justify their policies of violence and oppression.
Social reality is not determined by genes, but by the relations of production,that is, the relationship between labor, property, class interests, and the organization of production. These relations are subject to change, and transforming them is the goal of every genuine communist movement.
The claim that humans are determined by their biological "understructure" contradicts not only historical evidence, but also the fundamental principle of socialism: that human beings can change their conditions through collective action, education, solidarity, and the transformation of society itself.

Chud⁵: @Silberfisch:
Understructure does not directly precondition the manifesting Social Structures (Superstructure) upon the base but the Base itself. Base rests upon a biological foundation, that is the compositional faculties that Humans differentiate among eachother within geneological sub-composites, colloquially known as Race as with it's most expedient taxonomic code. Social Reality materializes off of Relative Production, or Base in this case, to which itself manifests off of the faculties of Being, to which said faculties come at direct proportionality of the collective Being's physiological, neurological and psychosomatic merits. It would be baselessly universalist and reductive to believe that Races, or genological sub-composites are entirely the same amongst eachother and each of them possessed the same faculties of constructing Productive Relations amongst eachother. Observable history proves this. Marx knew this, and Hegel knew, precisely why they both dabbled within this supposedly "pseudoscientific and reactionary" race science. It is empirically irrefutable. Understructure is the direct connection of Nature towards Human civilization at it's foundation.
Transforming the base via directly transforming it's Understructure was precisely what National Socialists and Fascists sought to do. Socialization of labor only could've achieved so much, socialization of racial biology needed to exist as a necessary precursor. Races, or human genetic sub-composites, were fragmented and solitary (especially within modern conditions), and was directly weaponized by the bourgeoisie to diminish proletarian social relationships amongst eachother. Eugenicism, to such capacity, is praxis as an immanent presentation of the Naturality. Quasi-liberalist moral purity tests that disregard it as "immoral" and "oppressive" mean absolutely nothing amongst concrete reality. Nazism's end-goal is post-race, a world where the remaining Humans possess collective racial geneology. There would be little reason for State to represent socialized ownership of the means of production anymore, and to that means even have to exist, hinted by the means of Volkgemeinschaft. The subsequent deconstruction of the State will transpire under collective ethnonationalist relations.

polarian: @Chud: forgot to log in

Chud⁶⁽²⁾: @Chud: Words words words superstructure words words

Chud⁷⁽²⁾: @Chud: Although I might agree with it

antiswarthy: #1 most pretentious and useless soybooru user award

Chud⁸: @antiswarthy:

>pretentious is when you're smarter than me and can actually write and argue

polarian: @antiswarthy:

>open post about topic

>find a discussion about said topic

>my precious EYES! is that a le hekkin pretentious wall of text... on my autistic flamewar site??!!?! NOOOOOOO

get a grip ferret

jewishautismaward78: @Chud: literal text wall, use reddit spacing please

polarian: [url=site://post/view/130325#c993721]@greedy personishautismaward78[/url]: line breaks are fake & homosexual

antiswarthy: @polarian: I'm drawing you with black skin and a tiny peferretlong with a massive prolapsed urethra btw just so you know

Silberfisch: @Chud: This whole "understructure" idea is just pseudoscientific nonsense wrapped in fascist jargon. Claiming that societies are built not through material conditions but through so-called racial biology isn't analysis, it's ideological excuse-making. It's the same garbage fascists have always used to justify oppression, exclusion, and violence.
Humans aren't robots controlled by DNA. The idea that "racial unification" would somehow eliminate contradiction and create a harmonious society is not only scientifically baseless,it's just Stupid. Class struggle, exploitation, and inequality exist within any group, no matter how genetically similar. These are shaped by ownership, power, and labor, not by someone's genome. You believe in raisin from 80 years ago
Anyone who's actually read Marx knows: historical materialism is about productive relations, not skull shapes. Race science has no place in Marxist theory. Trying to rebrand fascist race theory with Marxist vocabulary just shows you don't understand either one.

Silberfisch: Go back to Xitter with your SNCA

Chud⁹⁽⁸⁾: @antiswarthy: antiswarthy more like anti-intellectualist GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

Chud¹⁰⁽⁸⁾: @antiswarthy:

>Sar you made mi leak nao I portray you as slopjack

polarian: @antiswarthy:
this is probably your start as a fetish artist and you probably dont even know it yet
@Silberfisch:

>this thing isn't [x], it's [y]!

>more performative chatgpt tirades on "oppression" and "fascism"

i went on a side tangent of how [race biology -> material conditions -> society], you could clearly see this distinction both in the original post and how i explained understructure's relations with the dialectical presentation of history. outside the theoretical underpinnings of which i conceived the theory of "Understructure", you're capable of finding out the truth by inglehart-welzel's models, all the numerous available sources on racial physiology, how environmental factors influences neurology, cerebral composite distributions among race, and the human genome in relation to geography.
you're only argument is that Understructure is entirely nebulous and absurd only because it just is, something that cannot be ever treated as fact as it would unravel all the social progress done under the name of marxism if it was so. fortunately, i'm not a marxist, dialectical materialism and economic critique were the only semi-useful sciences that came from leftoids and the rest can be disregarded as utter fragmentivist trash. which is why the only continuation of your philosophy of "marxist" socialism just so happens to be ethnonationalist country that has an observed history with pro-racialist policy (glory to the PRC), or the numerous other forms of semi-successful socialism consisting of authoritarian nationals where the state just substitutes the bourgeoisie to varying forms in the form of labor organization.
also i got these ideas from talking with bunkerugly people, not xitter. somehow interacting with your cohort made me more reactionary by time

polarian: @polarian: an*
FUCK i sound so ESL

Silberfisch: @polarian: You're not making theory, you're coping with big words. Your entire worldview is a patchwork of cherry-picked pseudoscience from Xitter and recycled fascist drivel wrapped in fake dialectics.And your Xitterbabble of a Text took 30 minutes for you to make btw. Go out and do something important

polarian: @Silberfisch:

>just entirely gave up on arguing, resorts to meaningless disparagement

forgive me for thinking communists were people concerned with actual rational analysis

Silberfisch: @polarian: We're just going in circles. You're probably some 30yo 4chad Immigrant that argues with teenagers about politics while rotting in your mom's basement. This discussion doesn't matter, it won't change a raisin. Do something meaningful with your life and focus on yourself instead of obsessing over others.

jimbo: @polarian: why is it that everytime i see you post its just wordswordswords essays

Silberfisch: @jimbo: Because xes a politically obsessed 4chad immigrant LARPing as an intellectual.

polarian: @Silberfisch: i also love the reductive assertion that all the documented evidence regarding racial physiology (including marx's own observations) are to be directly omitted as "pseudoscience" without a second thought. quasi-liberalism infects your entire philosophy and its specialed to think otherwise, literally look at how much institutions protect the racism of your daddy marx by saying that it was just a "byproduct of a highly flawed climate" but apparently marx's actual theory doesn't fall under that same category. this is also exemplified with your ad-hominem assumptions about me instead of the actual argument at hand. read heidigger

>umm you're probably a 40+ year old 4chad ugly incel chudcel bigot.... get owned nazi

polarian: @jimbo: what would be the alternative then? snca copypasta flamewars?

jimbo: @polarian: i had never implied that, you're just wasting your time

polarian: @Silberfisch: the actual reason was that the red shambhala raisin bunkerugly people were posting on this site was fucking annoying
get actual original material for starters

>OH MY GOD IS THAT LE HEKKIN ESOTERIC NAZISM.... BUT WITHOUT ALL THE HEKKIN UNWHOLESOME NAZI SYMBOLOGY IN IT? AND WITH MY OWN COMMUNIST ICONOGRAPHY SHOEHORNED INTO IT? BAZZED! ITS LITERALLY JUST LIKE THE THING!

polarian: @jimbo: i implied it for you in relation to your extensive track record of linespamming perfectly good soybooru posts with specialed copypastas

jimbo: @polarian: i'll have to agree to disagree

Silberfisch: @polarian: Nobody actually believes in Red Shambhala, blvd - it's mostly ironic. Same with all that Agartha stuff.Red Shambhala is more like a parody of esoteric Nazism than something serious.

But honestly, It would be gemmy to see communism develop strong, recognizable symbolism again, something that spreads like Nazism does today. You don't need a wall of text or endless arguments if you've got a spinning symbol and some Eurodance.

Chud¹¹:

In Loving Memory of Junibooru

We gather with heavy hearts to remember Junibooru-a man who lived simply but left a lasting mark on those who truly saw him. Short in stature and chubby in frame, he resided in a modest hut, lived on his own terms, and walked through life with a spirit that was raw, real, and entirely his.
Of African descent, Junibooru cherished his roots and found deep joy in the bold, comforting flavors of Afro cuisine. Meals with him were more than sustenance-they were expressions of love, memory, and identity. Food was one of the many ways he kept his culture close, and he shared it generously.
He was a person of contradictions-gentle but blunt, quiet but unforgettable. He bore a scent that many found hard to ignore-earthy, unapologetic, and part of the unfiltered truth he carried in every aspect of his life. Junibooru did not pretend. He was who he was.
Tragically, Junibooru died by suicide. We do not pretend to understand the weight he carried, nor the pain that brought him to that moment. But we do know this: he mattered. His life, in all its complexity, was worthy of love, compassion, and remembrance.
Let us not define him by how he left us, but remember him for how he lived-with honesty, depth, cultural pride, and a stubborn refusal to be anyone but himself. May we carry forward his memory not only with sorrow, but with tenderness and truth.
Rest peacefully, Junibooru.
You were seen. You are missed. You are loved.

Alexium_official: Red shambhal is based

Chud¹²⁽²⁾: @Silberfisch: That's why you shouldn't

Chud¹³: @Silberfisch:
noon? Why are you acting like you're not some immigrant as well?
I've seen you on leftypol, go back.

>Do sumthing with ur life mane.

noon, you're 16, you're doing nothing other than failing school and larping with dead, debunked, specialed economic ideologies from 100 years ago.