Warrior-Z
Keep Raging On Me / BooruBVLL Since 2023
1 week ago#284117
@Soyton Okay, retard. So you think that Muslims started the war, right? This is factually disproven.
A large-scale Jewish migration to Palestine began, accelerated by Jewish people fleeing Nazism in Europe. Between 1918 and 1947, the Jewish population in Palestine increased from 6 percent to 33 percent. Palestinians were alarmed by the demographic change and tensions rose, leading to the Palestinian revolt from 1936 to 1939. Meanwhile, Zionist organisations continued to campaign for a homeland for Jews in Palestine. Armed Zionist militias started to attack the Palestinian people, forcing them to flee. Zionism, which emerged as a political ideology in the late 19th century, called for the creation of a Jewish homeland. Leading up to Israel’s birth in 1948, more than 750,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from their homes by Zionist militias. This mass exodus came to be known as the Nakba or catastrophe. A further 300,000 Palestinians were displaced by the Six-Day War in 1967.
Many Jews were against Zionism, and I respect Judaism.
A large-scale Jewish migration to Palestine began, accelerated by Jewish people fleeing Nazism in Europe. Between 1918 and 1947, the Jewish population in Palestine increased from 6 percent to 33 percent. Palestinians were alarmed by the demographic change and tensions rose, leading to the Palestinian revolt from 1936 to 1939. Meanwhile, Zionist organisations continued to campaign for a homeland for Jews in Palestine. Armed Zionist militias started to attack the Palestinian people, forcing them to flee. Zionism, which emerged as a political ideology in the late 19th century, called for the creation of a Jewish homeland. Leading up to Israel’s birth in 1948, more than 750,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from their homes by Zionist militias. This mass exodus came to be known as the Nakba or catastrophe. A further 300,000 Palestinians were displaced by the Six-Day War in 1967.
Many Jews were against Zionism, and I respect Judaism.
Soyton
Not fatigued yet
8 hours ago#420551
Idk what you were talking about, its literally about thisHistorically wrong btw, a civil war already happened beore a full-scale war you absolute greasy cuck.Show quoted text
You didnt "debunk" shit in these matters. First recorded attack of 1947 war was in 30th November near LyddaShow quoted text
I already debunked both of these claims btw, that you bring with quite literally zero evidence because you are a massive subhuman retard who can't debate. Hitchens razor dismisses these.
Soyton
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8 hours ago#420569
About that rational vs irrational "contradiction", im pretty sure that point was talked about the most hereLet me list them rq. You dodged pre-1948 civil war, your rational vs irrational contradiction, and your crap hypothetical bullraisin that you rely on.Show quoted text
Second thing, I think you overestimate how many actual points youre making in between your dropped "fat ass retards" etc, becouse so far Im adressing everything important
Warrior-Z
Keep Raging On Me / BooruBVLL Since 2023
8 hours ago#420594
Yeah I literally addressed that, that is not the case, In 1946, Palestine saw intensified attacks by Jewish underground groups specifically the Irgun and Lehi that were targeting British Mandatory authority, infrastructure.When did I dodge the civil warShow quoted text
Let me list them rq. You dodged pre-1948 civil war, your rational vs irrational contradiction, and your crap hypothetical bullraisin that you rely on.Show quoted text
You didnt "debunk" shit in these matters. First recorded attack of 1947 war was in 30th November near Lydda
Warrior-Z
Keep Raging On Me / BooruBVLL Since 2023
8 hours ago#420601
Yes you gave up that point within your recent paragraph due to the evidence I gave.About that rational vs irrational "contradiction", im pretty sure that point was talked about the most hereShow quoted text
Let me list them rq. You dodged pre-1948 civil war, your rational vs irrational contradiction, and your crap hypothetical bullraisin that you rely on.
Warrior-Z
Keep Raging On Me / BooruBVLL Since 2023
8 hours ago#420622
So now we agree that: both Arab and Jewish militias were involved in pre-1948 violence tensions were already escalating on multiple sides and it wasn’t just one group acting irrationally out of nowhere, cool. That already contradicts your earlier framing. I also answered that question btw, it's because under the British Mandate for Palestine you had two groups with competing national goals, and the other one does it without any sort of right.As far as I remember we were talking about pre-1948 "escalations", how arab militias were attacking jews for their growing migration, and how jewish militias were attacking arabs to gain territories. But anyway, in the end im not full-time israel defender, my original post was "why couldnt there be peace", never claimed no place for concessions.Show quoted text
If you acknowledge a point but don’t engage with what it implies, you’re still avoiding it. You never addressed the escalation before 1948 under the British Mandate for Palestine, you just keep resetting to they chose war. Also that “they’re not targeting a demographic, just terrorists” is so retarded. A terrorist organization is not the same as the civilian population, and they have been recorded to be targetting civilians, their "IT'S DA KHAMAS" excuses were proven to be lies. Also, no, Arabs didn't "commit" those crimes collectively, the 1948 Arab Israeli War involved multiple states with different interests, plus local groups. You're still stuck in your contradiction btw. You admitted the situation caused real harm and that resistance wasn’t inherently irrational, so W concession. You already lost.
Soyton
Not fatigued yet
8 hours ago#420652
Not exactly "no any sort of right", both of these groups didnt have own country and were more or less tied to that territory, jews in more former history, palestinians in currentSo now we agree that: both Arab and Jewish militias were involved in pre-1948 violence tensions were already escalating on multiple sides and it wasn’t just one group acting irrationally out of nowhere, cool. That already contradicts your earlier framing. I also answered that question btw, it's because under the British Mandate for Palestine you had two groups with competing national goals, and the other one does it without any sort of right.Show quoted text
As far as I remember we were talking about pre-1948 "escalations", how arab militias were attacking jews for their growing migration, and how jewish militias were attacking arabs to gain territories. But anyway, in the end im not full-time israel defender, my original post was "why couldnt there be peace", never claimed no place for concessions.Show quoted text
If you acknowledge a point but don’t engage with what it implies, you’re still avoiding it. You never addressed the escalation before 1948 under the British Mandate for Palestine, you just keep resetting to they chose war. Also that “they’re not targeting a demographic, just terrorists” is so retarded. A terrorist organization is not the same as the civilian population, and they have been recorded to be targetting civilians, their "IT'S DA KHAMAS" excuses were proven to be lies. Also, no, Arabs didn't "commit" those crimes collectively, the 1948 Arab Israeli War involved multiple states with different interests, plus local groups. You're still stuck in your contradiction btw. You admitted the situation caused real harm and that resistance wasn’t inherently irrational, so W concession. You already lost.
Soyton
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8 hours ago#420697
Well it could have happened but it was before partition plan so it does not have to do much with this specific topic (violence after denial of solution) but to be sorted with the rest of tensionsYeah I literally addressed that, that is not the case, In 1946, Palestine saw intensified attacks by Jewish underground groups specifically the Irgun and Lehi that were targeting British Mandatory authority, infrastructure.Show quoted text
When did I dodge the civil warShow quoted text
Let me list them rq. You dodged pre-1948 civil war, your rational vs irrational contradiction, and your crap hypothetical bullraisin that you rely on.Show quoted text
You didnt "debunk" shit in these matters. First recorded attack of 1947 war was in 30th November near Lydda
Soyton
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8 hours ago#420709
I only admitted that the rational outcome wasnt probable, not that it wasnt the rational one.Yes you gave up that point within your recent paragraph due to the evidence I gave.Show quoted text
About that rational vs irrational "contradiction", im pretty sure that point was talked about the most hereShow quoted text
Let me list them rq. You dodged pre-1948 civil war, your rational vs irrational contradiction, and your crap hypothetical bullraisin that you rely on.
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