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BaconLover07

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3 weeks ago#1433726
>What is /althis/?
Something I'm trying. I like talking about alternate history, but everywhere that I see it is either filled with mega-autists who'll call me retarded for not knowing the name of every single Soviet soldier at Stalingrad, or is a total DNB. I figured it could be interesting to talk about it.
>Sounds gay.
(((You)))'re on a Politics thread in the forum for the bald men with glasses website. (((You)))'ve seen worse.
>What if Germany won WW2?
Kill yourself.
>What do we talk about?
Interesting Alt History topics.
<LAST THREAD TOPICS:
-What if Iraq won against Iran?
-What if Greece lasted longer against the Italians?
-What if America became socialist instead of Russia?
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pantokrator

I fuc.k all your mummas 😂😂

2 weeks ago#1460207
What if Germany won WW2?
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alson2

Oh i'm a colorjak

2 weeks ago#1460238
pantokrator
What if Germany won WW2?
Everyone would have a bbc
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pantokrator

I fuc.k all your mummas 😂😂

2 weeks ago#1460241
alson2
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What if Germany won WW2?
Everyone would have a bbc
One must imagine spadeson happy
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Krab

Life isn't about passing genes, its about how many times you failtrolled, and how much fun you got

2 weeks ago#1460255
alson2
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What if Germany won WW2?
Everyone would have a bbc
What if Hitler had bbc and blacked jews in bnwo camps instead of just killing them
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FatGuyParadise

i miss the wage

2 weeks ago#1460260
what if hitler bibisi
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BaconLover07

it IS all sunshine and rainbows :D

2 weeks ago#1462854
Nigar
What if ottoman empire had a succesful industrilization and made a communist revoluthion after that didnt join the ww1?(this senerio is in 1890s)
Very interesting idea, maybe if the USSR gets formed then the two ally and have greater cooperation? Maybe more Communist support in the Muslim world and the Balkans?
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Nigar

One of Tvrkaryan patriots

2 weeks ago#1462881
BaconLover07
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What if ottoman empire had a succesful industrilization and made a communist revoluthion after that didnt join the ww1?(this senerio is in 1890s)
Very interesting idea, maybe if the USSR gets formed then the two ally and have greater cooperation? Maybe more Communist support in the Muslim world and the Balkans?
I think it would end up like mao’s china in the relathions with sscp
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ProxyGeneral

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2 weeks ago#1470061


Something I've been working on lately #SNCA #vagueposting
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BaconLover07

it IS all sunshine and rainbows :D

2 weeks ago#1470651
ProxyGeneral

Something I've been working on lately #SNCA #vagueposting
in Europe I see something like a German victory scenario with a unified UK + Ireland, so either Britain is a puppet or ally of Germany. Iberia too is unified, Greenland and Iceland are possessions of Nazi Germany, alongside some of Canadas coast. This makes me think that this is some sort of Total victory for Germany, not the whole Axis. I see much of the world is fit in "neat" borders, a topic Hitler was fond of, alongside the Reichkommissariats of Ukraine, Ostland, and the planned borders for Moscovien / Russland, I believe this to be a global order of Reichkommissariats.

I suspect the red borders near India, Afghanistan and Persia to mean something special for the regions, perhaps insurgency / autonomy. I couldn't imagine the Third Reich fighting an insurgency in Afghania for long before abandoning the land due to its lack of viable resource deposits in the 20's to 50's (I suspect 50's as most Axis victory scenarios take place around that time).

Was I close?
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2 weeks ago#1470844(edited 2 weeks ago)
BaconLover07
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Something I've been working on lately #SNCA #vagueposting
in Europe I see something like a German victory scenario with a unified UK + Ireland, so either Britain is a puppet or ally of Germany. Iberia too is unified, Greenland and Iceland are possessions of Nazi Germany, alongside some of Canadas coast. This makes me think that this is some sort of Total victory for Germany, not the whole Axis. I see much of the world is fit in "neat" borders, a topic Hitler was fond of, alongside the Reichkommissariats of Ukraine, Ostland, and the planned borders for Moscovien / Russland, I believe this to be a global order of Reichkommissariats.
I suspect the red borders near India, Afghanistan and Persia to mean something special for the regions, perhaps insurgency / autonomy. I couldn't imagine the Third Reich fighting an insurgency in Afghania for long before abandoning the land due to its lack of viable resource deposits in the 20's to 50's (I suspect 50's as most Axis victory scenarios take place around that time).
Was I close?
Very close, global RKs. It's WIP so the bright lines denominate the areas I'm working on.
It's more of a backdrop for an ethnolinguistic project I've been working on for some months so idc much for the realism of it, but TL;DR Goring, Himmler or Goebbels succeeds Hitler and there is a series of conflicts in the 60s-80s that lead to global German hegemony, with German being the official lingua franca, but with autonomy/assimilation of regions deemed Aryan like Europe, Iran and North America. After decades the world is assimilated with the colours showing the respective regions (kinda like UN charters), with the exception of Subsaharan Africa north of SA that's split into 4-5 Reichskommissariats used as massive nature conservations and labour units.

All to say, an excuse to go schizo with germanising names globally. Here are a few examples (reichsgaue, capital of which and settlements):
>Groß-Lunden: Lunden ~Westmünster
>Südsachsen: Goldford ~Woching ~Winchester (gr) ~Südhamtun ~Portsmund ~Chichester ~Berthelmstein-Hofen ~Neuhaven ~Hästingen ~Reading (rd) ~Windsor ~Schluch ~Ochsenford ~Buckingheim ~Mitteltun-Kainz
>West-Merzien/Mierze: Bermingheim ~Wulferhamptun ~Kofentre ~Wehrwick (gr) ~Wörkester ~Herford ~Scrobbsburg (bl) ~Stock am Trent
>Westgautenland: Gautenburg ~Borassen ~Alingseck ~Trollhätten ~Wänersburg ~Lidköping ~Falköping ~Scharaburg ~Schöwden ~Marienstadt
>Atropatene: Bad Täuris ~Länkran (bl) ~Germ/Garm ~Ardeweil/Ardewald/Ardeweiden ~Achar ~Marand ~Margen ~Bräuten ~Kaltbrunn ~Ürmien (gr)
>Höchkeiweg: Saboreten ~Hachodaten ~Morgensonnach (ylw) ~Obibreiten (gr)
>Hamjung/Donbück: Eisengard ~Ruhenkirche ~Klarburg ~Schöneberg ~Glückstadt (prpl) ~Sinpen ~Hamhun (blu) ~Bunsen
>Chamünden: Chamünden ~Ningthron ~Tramog ~Itenburg
>Kanton-Perlmund: Kanton-Stadt ~Schönegrenz (gr) ~Aueborn ~Tschautschingen ~Buddhascheid
>Winterkirchen und Kaschmeer: Winterkirchen ~Sargin ~Kargil ~Gleh ~Srinagard (bl) ~Haldenhausen
>Bengalen: Dakken ~Reichskönig ~Engelbasar ~Bog ~Muminsing (gr) ~Kumolaken ~Chatogram
>Siam: Thonburg ~Lawenburg ~Kronud (rd) ~Waldenhufe ~Quellenburg ~Grafenmark ~Reichung ~Trad
>Magdalenenburg: Kartagen ~Stromaxten ~Sankt Marta ~Goldtor/Erztor ~Thalupen ~Karmel ~Kreuz ~Sinzelen ~Weide ~Arierham (bl)
>Maranham: Sankt Ludwig ~Neu-Utrecht ~Frankenhafen ~Sankt Josef an der Bachmar ~Barrierenchen ~Kaxias ~Willevoes ~Welsenkirch (rd) ~Sankt Luzie ~Kaiserin ~Floßen
>Paulsburg: Paulsburg ~Heiligen ~Sankt Josef ~Sorokabau ~Kampichen ~Neu-Mainz ~Arachen ~Schwarzach ~Franken ~Sankt Josef am Schwarzach ~Bauru (gr) ~Marilien
>Sankt Katharina: Florianpel ~Baden-Katharina ~Blumenau ~Jonweil ~Paranachen ~Kieferntaube ~Punkt-Großen ~Londonlein ~Klapperschlangen (gr) ~Franz-Bertram ~Chappenburg ~Dreizehnlinden ~Kanunhaus (bl) ~Laken ~Nettersheim
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BaconLover07

it IS all sunshine and rainbows :D

2 weeks ago#1470885
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in Europe I see something like a German victory scenario with a unified UK + Ireland, so either Britain is a puppet or ally of Germany. Iberia too is unified, Greenland and Iceland are possessions of Nazi Germany, alongside some of Canadas coast. This makes me think that this is some sort of Total victory for Germany, not the whole Axis. I see much of the world is fit in "neat" borders, a topic Hitler was fond of, alongside the Reichkommissariats of Ukraine, Ostland, and the planned borders for Moscovien / Russland, I believe this to be a global order of Reichkommissariats.
I suspect the red borders near India, Afghanistan and Persia to mean something special for the regions, perhaps insurgency / autonomy. I couldn't imagine the Third Reich fighting an insurgency in Afghania for long before abandoning the land due to its lack of viable resource deposits in the 20's to 50's (I suspect 50's as most Axis victory scenarios take place around that time).
Was I close?
Very close, global RKs. It's WIP so the bright lines denominate the areas I'm working on.
It's more of a backdrop for an ethnolinguistic project I've been working on for some months so idc much for the realism of it, but TL;DR Goring, Himmler or Goebbels succeeds Hitler and there is a series of conflicts in the 60s-80s that lead to global German hegemony, with German being the official lingua franca, but with autonomy/assimilation of regions deemed Aryan like Europe, Iran and North America. After decades the world is assimilated with the colours showing the respective regions (kinda like UN charters), with the exception of Subsaharan Africa north of SA that's split into 4-5 Reichskommissariats used as massive nature conservations and labour units.
All to say, an excuse to go schizo with germanising names globally. Here are a few examples (reichsgaue, capital of which and settlements):
>Groß-Lunden: Lunden ~Westmünster
>Südsachsen: Goldford ~Woching ~Winchester (gr) ~Südhamtun ~Portsmund ~Chichester ~Berthelmstein-Hofen ~Neuhaven ~Hästingen ~Reading (rd) ~Windsor ~Schluch ~Ochsenford ~Buckingheim ~Mitteltun-Kainz
>West-Merzien/Mierze: Bermingheim ~Wulferhamptun ~Kofentre ~Wehrwick (gr) ~Wörkester ~Herford ~Scrobbsburg (bl) ~Stock am Trent
>Westgautenland: Gautenburg ~Borassen ~Alingseck ~Trollhätten ~Wänersburg ~Lidköping ~Falköping ~Scharaburg ~Schöwden ~Marienstadt
>Atropatene: Bad Täuris ~Länkran (bl) ~Germ/Garm ~Ardeweil/Ardewald/Ardeweiden ~Achar ~Marand ~Margen ~Bräuten ~Kaltbrunn ~Ürmien (gr)
>Höchkeiweg: Saboreten ~Hachodaten ~Morgensonnach (ylw) ~Obibreiten (gr)
>Hamjung/Donbück: Eisengard ~Ruhenkirche ~Klarburg ~Schöneberg ~Glückstadt (prpl) ~Sinpen ~Hamhun (blu) ~Bunsen
>Chamünden: Chamünden ~Ningthron ~Tramog ~Itenburg
>Kanton-Perlmund: Kanton-Stadt ~Schönegrenz (gr) ~Aueborn ~Tschautschingen ~Buddhascheid
>Winterkirchen und Kaschmeer: Winterkirchen ~Sargin ~Kargil ~Gleh ~Srinagard (bl) ~Haldenhausen
>Bengalen: Dakken ~Reichskönig ~Engelbasar ~Bog ~Muminsing (gr) ~Kumolaken ~Chatogram
>Siam: Thonburg ~Lawenburg ~Kronud (rd) ~Waldenhufe ~Quellenburg ~Grafenmark ~Reichung ~Trad
>Magdalenenburg: Kartagen ~Stromaxten ~Sankt Marta ~Goldtor/Erztor ~Thalupen ~Karmel ~Kreuz ~Sinzelen ~Weide ~Arierham (bl)
>Maranham: Sankt Ludwig ~Neu-Utrecht ~Frankenhafen ~Sankt Josef an der Bachmar ~Barrierenchen ~Kaxias ~Willevoes ~Welsenkirch (rd) ~Sankt Luzie ~Kaiserin ~Floßen
>Paulsburg: Paulsburg ~Heiligen ~Sankt Josef ~Sorokabau ~Kampichen ~Neu-Mainz ~Arachen ~Schwarzach ~Franken ~Sankt Josef am Schwarzach ~Bauru (gr) ~Marilien
>Sankt Katharina: Florianpel ~Baden-Katharina ~Blumenau ~Jonweil ~Paranachen ~Kieferntaube ~Punkt-Großen ~Londonlein ~Klapperschlangen (gr) ~Franz-Bertram ~Chappenburg ~Dreizehnlinden ~Kanunhaus (bl) ~Laken ~Nettersheim
Incredibly interesting. If I may suggest Jebzy's videos, I've been a history mega-nerd for a logn time, and he touched on some parts that I've never seen much discussion about.
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ProxyGeneral

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2 weeks ago#1470951
BaconLover07
Incredibly interesting. If I may suggest Jebzy's videos, I've been a history mega-nerd for a logn time, and he touched on some parts that I've never seen much discussion about.
I've watched his vids before and he's alright. His vid on the Italians and Japanese especially gave me ideas for le basic Axis Victory setting I've worked on before. Rn tho I'm mainly working on this one, a Roman alt his setting and another map about a surviving Shogunate that I forgor to continue
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BaconLover07

it IS all sunshine and rainbows :D

2 weeks ago#1470961
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Incredibly interesting. If I may suggest Jebzy's videos, I've been a history mega-nerd for a logn time, and he touched on some parts that I've never seen much discussion about.
I've watched his vids before and he's alright. His vid on the Italians and Japanese especially gave me ideas for le basic Axis Victory setting I've worked on before. Rn tho I'm mainly working on this one, a Roman alt his setting and another map about a surviving Shogunate that I forgor to continue
May I see your Axis victory scenario? Sometimes basics can be pretty gemmy.
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BaconLover07

it IS all sunshine and rainbows :D

2 weeks ago#1470975
BaconLover07
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Continuing on from my previous thread:
1.) What if Tibet stayed Independant?
2.) What if the USSR completely annexed Eastern Europe after WW2?
3.) What if the US conquered Canada during the revolution?
4.) What if Italy never left Libya?
5.) What if the Russian Empire was divided between Communists and Tsarists? (Korea style)
6.) What if Denmark became part of the Eastern Bloc post-WW2?
7.) What if Rome had more of a presence in Africa?
8.) What if the Afghan monarchy never fell?
9.) What if Mexico was entirely annexed by the United States after the US-Mexican war?
10.) What if the Ottomans colonised parts of the Americas?
11.) What if the Panama Canal was never built?
12.) What if Iran joined the Axis?
13.) What if Mecca was bombed after Saudi Arabia joined the Allies?
14.) What if Mongolia joined the Warsaw Pact?
15.) What if America kept Liberia as a colony?
16.) What if Spain / parts of Spain was annexed after the Spanish - American war?
17.) What if America joined the Central Powers?
18.) What if the United Nations took command of Nukes post WW2?
19.) What if India stayed Independant?
20.) What if Tuva was never annexed by the USSR?
21.) What if the Baltics stayed free? Either becoming Soviet puppets (but still independant) or being neutral.
22.) What if Sweden joined the Central Powers?
23.) What if Iran fought in the Gulf War?
24.) What if Afghanistan joined the Axis?
25.) What if Japan tried invading Australia?
26.) What if India fought in the Vietnam War?
27.) What if Lithuania joined the Axis and invaded Poland?
28.) What if Greece joined the Eastern Bloc after WW2?
29.) What if the USSR got the Turkish Straits during WW2?
30.) What if Poland kept its Western lands after WW2?
31.) What if Ukraine fell in three days in 2021?
32.) What if Israel was formed in Uganda? (Theres about a gorillion different places it could've been founded, my favourite is North Alaska)
33.) What if the USSR stayed united with the New Union Treaty?
34.) What if Russia took a more active role in the War on Terror?
35.) What if the German Empire didn't take Alsace-Lorraine?
36.) What if the Kiel Canal was never built?
37.) What if Israel kept the Sinai after the Six-Day war?
38.) What if Soviet soldiers fought in the Korean War?
39.) What if Saddam Hussein got to keep Kuwait?
40.) What if the Arab Union survived?
41.) What if Ukraine joined NATO?
42.) What if America actually invaded Canada after Trump got elected?
43.) What if Britain kept Malta?
44.) What if the UK gave up on the Falklands after Argentina invaded them?
45.) What if Xinjiang / Sinkiang / East Turkestan stayed independent / got annexed by the USSR?
46.) What if there was more Russian spoken in Alaska?
47.) What if the Russian Empire kept Hawaii?
48.) What if America annexed Cuba after the Spanish - American war?
49.) What if Indochina stayed united after independence?
50.) What if Brazil stayed as a Monarchy?
51.) What if Japan found the oil reserves in the South China Sea during WW2?
52.) What if China and Japan negotiated peace and joined the Axis?
53.) What if Ireland joined the Axis?
54.) What if the League of Nations intervened in Ethiopia?
55.) What if Mexico became Communist?
56.) What if Saudi Arabia conquered all of Arabia during WW1?
57.) What if the Argentine mainland was invaded during the Falklands War?
58.) What if the Falklands war triggered NATO Article 5?
59.) What if Bangladesh lost its war of Independance?
60.) What if North Vietnam was invaded during the Vietnam War?
61.) What if the intervention against the Hungarian Revolution of '56 sparked WW3?
62.) What if the UN intervened to stop the Rwandan Genocide?
63.) What if Israel lost the Six-Day War?
64.) What if the German Colonial Empire survived WW1?
65.) What if the Czechoslovak Legion saved the Romanov royal family?
66.) What if Mongolia was annexed into the USSR?
67.) What if Taiwan never stayed free after the Chinese Civil War?
68.) What if the USSR invaded Hokkaido?
69.) What if Paraguay was completely conquered during the war of the Triple Alliance?
70.) What if Burma stayed with India after Indian Independance?
71.) What if Japan kept Korea after the Second World War?
72.) What if Mannerheim invaded Leningrad during the Russian Civil War?
73.) What if the Axis actually took Leningrad?
74.) What if Finland managed to encircle the Komi Peninsula?
75.) What if Ukraine never gave up its Nukes after the USSR collapsed?
76.) What if the Brazillian nuclear program succeeded?
77.) What if Mexico and Guatemala went to war in 1958?
78.) What if Czechia was in the Western Bloc after WW2, with Slovakia being in the Soviet Bloc?
79.) What if the Nazis formed a government in exile after WW2?
80.) What if there was an actual Nazi Insurgency?
81.) What if the Russian Empire won the Russo-Japanese war of 1905?
82.) What if Germany annexed German Austria after World War 1?
83.) What if the Turkish revolutionaries lost the Turkish war of independence?
84.) What if Cambodia defeated Vietnam in 1978?
85.) What if the Peru-Bolivia confederation succeeded?
86.) What if Greenland became independent after Denmark was occupied in WW2?
87.) What if Ireland got Northern Ireland in WW2? (It was offered by Churchill if they joined the Allies)
88.) What if the USSR fought in the Gulf War? (1990)
89.) What if Czechoslovakia survived after the end of the Cold War?
90.) What if Japan and Russia went to war over the Kurill islands?
91.) What if the US bombed Japan from Soviet Airfields after the fall of Manchuria?
92.) What if Taiwan stayed with Japan after WW2?
93.) What if Mexico actually joined the Central Powers?
94.) What if Russia joined NATO after the Cold War?
95.) What if Turkey triggered NATO Article 5 during the Syrian Civil War?
96.) What if Nicaragua got a canal similar to the Panama Canal?
97.) What if Hitler was captured alive?
98.) What if Biafra survived?
99.) What if Mongolia got Inner Mongolia after WW2?
100.) What if Israel never returned the Sinai Penninsula?
101.) What if Israel fought in the Korean war?
102.) What if Mexico, Argentina and Brazil fought in Korea like Truman requested?
103.) What if Manchukuo became a Soviet puppet state after WW2?
104.) What if Xinjiang joined the USSR during the Chinese Civil War?
105.) What if the Russian Empire formed a government-in-exile after the Russian Civil War?
106.) What if Finland lost the Winter War?
107.) What if the USSR got a Libyan protectorate after the Second World War? (This was a real plan)
108.) What if Panama never became independent?
109.) What if America never started the Spanish-American war?
110.) What if Portugal joined the Allies after Japan invaded Portuguese Timor?
111.) What if the Vatican was invaded during the Italian Civil War in WW2?
112.) What if Yugoslavia stayed in the Axis during WW2?
113.) What if Japan fought in the Vietnam War?
114.) What if Portugal intervened in the Spanish Civil War?
115.) What if Italy got Tunisia after World War Two?
116.) What if Albania didn't surrender peacefully in WW2?
117.) What if Venezuela joined the Axis in WW2?
118.) What if the 13 Colonies got independence peacefully?
119.) What if the Mexican Empire survived?
120.) What if Mexico joined NATO after WW2?
121.) What if SFR Yugoslavia joined the EU?
122.) What if China fought in the American invasion of Afghanistan?
123.) What if Georgia joined NATO alongside Poland, Romania and other Eastern Bloc nations after the Cold War?
124.) What if Austria was divided like Germany after WW2?
125.) What if the USSR intervened in the Turkish war for Independance?
126.) What if the USSR claimed Alaska?
127.) What if Trump invaded Cuba in the big '26?

I will keep going.
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ProxyGeneral

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2 weeks ago#1471014
BaconLover07
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I've watched his vids before and he's alright. His vid on the Italians and Japanese especially gave me ideas for le basic Axis Victory setting I've worked on before. Rn tho I'm mainly working on this one, a Roman alt his setting and another map about a surviving Shogunate that I forgor to continue
May I see your Axis victory scenario? Sometimes basics can be pretty gemmy.
I usually have a stash for that stuff on a 'cord but idk which one is the latest version. Only one I can be arsed to find is this version from 3 years ago when I was toying with borders and didn't fix them.



POD is the Brits being less competent basically, with the Yugoslav coup being a failure and Metaxas agreeing to the peace treaty with Italy that was tanked by Canaris, with a chunk of the British fleet also getting stranded in the Med after a Spanish invasion of Gibraltar. Sealion, Eastern Front, etc, cold war with Murica
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ProxyGeneral

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2 weeks ago#1471030
I honestly forgot how shitty it was, like idk why I added RK Volga and made it that big
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BaconLover07

it IS all sunshine and rainbows :D

2 weeks ago#1471084
ProxyGeneral
I honestly forgot how shitty it was, like idk why I added RK Volga and made it that big
TBH I couldn't do much better mapmaking.
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rayenari

picture me rollin'

2 weeks ago#1471625(edited 2 weeks ago)
what if carthrage won against rome
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