imagine worshiping tung tung tung sahur
NJr
I have a dream one day we'll be judged by the quality of our 'jaks and not for the color of our flag
3 days ago#819630
Most of Ioruba black people who came to Brazil followed his religion, so it became influential in grand part of Brazilian culture. Even some catholic families have some traditions from that religions...Ioruba-coded religions are becoming very popular nowdays in Brazil...Show quoted text
Paganism is "based" until the IorubaGOD joins the room
...mainly by white people
...however it's most from Ioruba-descendent people. We CongoGODs were always tradcaths
That's why I think that culture is less influential on my state
Brazilian_Chud
A short status message
On the virtues of Paganism/Deism/Pantheisn/Etc;
"So above so below, so below so above" - Hermes
Are Rw and LW the same?
Both want to shove a universal "truth" based on a false notion of "salvation" and "afterlife"
From what ive seen, after you die, your mind simply expires within your body, but there still is a God
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The world is moraless: it is amoral
"To God, all things are beautiful, good, and just; humans, however, think some things are unjust and others just." - Heraclitus
Thus we use science or analyticalism from people such as spencer, darwin, plato et al for rationalization of what is desirable and undesirable
Rationalization =/= good bad
Like the ltv vs marginal theory of value
Its not a good vs bad but inefficient vs efficient
Hell the only reason ur an abrhamist is
1) you were born such
2)desperation
Paganism (ill group in other heterodox religions like deism, spinozanism as well) lets you have you own personal God and your own personal way of conduction theistic affairs
Not to mention Pagan aesthetics are better.. so good they tried to revive it with people like wagner, the fascist movement, and traditionalism!
"So above so below, so below so above" - Hermes
Are Rw and LW the same?
Both want to shove a universal "truth" based on a false notion of "salvation" and "afterlife"
From what ive seen, after you die, your mind simply expires within your body, but there still is a God
----
The world is moraless: it is amoral
"To God, all things are beautiful, good, and just; humans, however, think some things are unjust and others just." - Heraclitus
Thus we use science or analyticalism from people such as spencer, darwin, plato et al for rationalization of what is desirable and undesirable
Rationalization =/= good bad
Like the ltv vs marginal theory of value
Its not a good vs bad but inefficient vs efficient
Hell the only reason ur an abrhamist is
1) you were born such
2)desperation
Paganism (ill group in other heterodox religions like deism, spinozanism as well) lets you have you own personal God and your own personal way of conduction theistic affairs
Not to mention Pagan aesthetics are better.. so good they tried to revive it with people like wagner, the fascist movement, and traditionalism!
On the truth on behalf of Jesus/Mohammad/Moses;
From Gustave le Bon (author of psychology of the crowd);
From Gustave le Bon (author of psychology of the crowd);
While great inventors play an important role in the evolution of civilization,
they don't play any apparent role in the political history of peoples. The
superior men to whom are owed, from the plow to the telegraph, the great
discoveries that are the common patrimony of mankind, have never possessed
the qualities of character necessary for establishing a religion or conquering an
empire, that is to say, for changing visibly the face of history. The thinker sees
too well the complexity of problems in order to ever possess very deep
convictions, and too few political aims seem to him deserving of his efforts to
pursue them in any sort of lively manner. While inventors are able to transform
a civilization, only fanatics, those with a narrow intelligence but energetic
character and strong passions, can establish religions, empires and throw the
world into upheaval. Indeed, it was the utterances of a hallucinatory —
Mohammed — which created the force necessary to triumph over the old Greco-
Roman world; in addition, it was an obscure monk — Luther — who put Europe
to fire and the sword. For sure it is not among the masses of mankind that the
feeblest echo of the voice of a Galileo or a Newton will ever he heard. Yes,
genius inventors can transform a civilization, but it is the fanatics and
hallucinated who create history.
For the philosophers History, such as what appears in books, is composed
of a long account of the battles sustained by man in order to create an ideal,
adore it, and then destroy it. And under the consideration of pure science, do
such ideals have any more value than the empty mirages created by the light
reflecting off the shifting sands of the desert?
It is nevertheless the great hallucinators, creators of such mirages, who
have the most profoundly transformed the world. From the bottom of their
tombs, they still weigh down the soul of the masses under the yoke of their
ideas. Without being unappreciative of the importance of their role, we must not
forget that with respect to the task they have accomplished, they have only
succeeded in accomplishing it because they have unconsciously embodied and
expressed the dominant ideal of their race and times. Indeed, one can only lead
a people who embody one's dreams, as the following examples illustrate.
Moses had represented for the Jews their long-held desire for deliverance from
enslavement by the Egyptians. Buddha and Jesus were able to comprehend the
infinite miseries of their times and conveyed in religion the need for charity and
pity which, in periods of universal suffering, begins to force its way through
into the world. Mohammed realized by the unity of belief the political unity of a
people divided into thousands of rival tribes. The soldier of genius who was
Napoleon embodied the ideal of military glory, revolutionary propaganda, and
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vanity, which at the time were the characteristics of the people who for fifteen
years he marched across Europe in pursuit of the most foolish adventures.
It is after all ideas, and consequently those who embody them, that guide
the world. They come into the world at first under vague shapes floating in the
air, changing slowly their look up to the day where they suddenly appear in the
form of a great man or great event. It matters little, on account of the power of
their action, whether they are true or false. History shows us that the most
fantastical illusions have always much more fanaticized man than correctly
demonstrated verities. It is, in fact, the most presumptuous delusions that are the
most apt to flatter the imagination and the sentiments of the general populace. It
is the Mahamaya, as the Hindus say, the universal and eternal chimera which,
under a thousand diverse aspects, floats above the path of mankind, invincibly
drawing over its traces.
It is in harmony with these altogether formidable and vain illusions that
humanity up to now has lived and will still continue to live. They are vain
shadows, but shadows that one must respect, however. Thanks to them, our
ancestors have known Hope, and in their heroic and foolish journey they have
brought us out of primitive barbarity and have led us to the point where we find
ourselves today. Of all the factors that play a role in the development of
civilizations, illusions are perhaps the most powerful. It was an illusion that
gave rise to the pyramids and for 5,000 years covered Egypt with colossuses of
stone. It was a similar illusion which in the Middle Ages had erected our
gigantic cathedrals and led the West to hurl itself upon the Moslem lands in the
Middle East in order to conquer a tomb. It has been the pursuit of illusions that
has led to the establishment of religions that have brought half of mankind
under their laws and which have built or destroyed the most redoubtable
empires. It has not been the pursuit of the truth, but rather the pursuit of fallacy,
which mankind has expended the most effort on. The fantastical aims that he
pursues, he will never be able to attain; but, it is by pursuing them that he has
brought into being all the progress that he does not seek.
On Satanism: I was reading this book
https://archive.org/details/the-origin-of-satan-how-christians-demonized-jews-pagans-and-heretics-by-elaine-pagels
Using satanism as a pejorative (unless they say they are) is mostly nonsensical. Satan in the book works with God to test people, but it was then used by Christians to - for a made up cause- to target innocent pagans. Carl schmitt talks about this, he said that during the medieval era countries would usher total war to kill each other, but during 1500-1877 iirc war mainly were like duels. You were shot, you healed, and if you wanted, you could have a reduel. This nonsense that the enemy MUST be destroyed is rather silly
https://archive.org/details/the-origin-of-satan-how-christians-demonized-jews-pagans-and-heretics-by-elaine-pagels
Using satanism as a pejorative (unless they say they are) is mostly nonsensical. Satan in the book works with God to test people, but it was then used by Christians to - for a made up cause- to target innocent pagans. Carl schmitt talks about this, he said that during the medieval era countries would usher total war to kill each other, but during 1500-1877 iirc war mainly were like duels. You were shot, you healed, and if you wanted, you could have a reduel. This nonsense that the enemy MUST be destroyed is rather silly
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